64-bit and out-of-process plugins builds now available on Labs

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• KilokilozaThursday, December 15, 2011 2:59:31 PM

  64-bit builds.
  
  Oooooh. Thank you!

• marbrossThursday, December 15, 2011 3:00:46 PM

  What? 64bit, cool

• Jeff ™intelimac20inchThursday, December 15, 2011 3:01:30 PM

  Great news! Thanks Opera devs.
  

• minhoThursday, December 15, 2011 3:05:00 PM

  wonderful!
  thanks for this great news.

• Witold BarylukmovaxThursday, December 15, 2011 3:09:51 PM

  What? Didn't Opera had this already? I use Opera on Linux, and I always see plug-ins running as separate process...

• Krio LythKriolythThursday, December 15, 2011 3:12:02 PM

  Wahoo!
  Thank you!

• Krio LythKriolythThursday, December 15, 2011 3:13:01 PM

  Originally posted by movax:

  What? Didn't Opera had this already? I use Opera on Linux, and I always see plug-ins running as separate process..

  
  That was only on Linux. Now it is everywhere

• Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proThursday, December 15, 2011 3:13:01 PM

  No words to say for this news! Awesome.

• Danieledarklink88Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:14:45 PM

  Omg!omg! Omg!omg! Wohooo

• el_esponjosoThursday, December 15, 2011 3:15:18 PM

  Thank you for opera 64bit windows

• Ruarí ØdegaardruarioThursday, December 15, 2011 3:18:16 PM

  Originally posted by movax:

  What? Didn't Opera had this already? I use Opera on Linux, and I always see plug-ins running as separate process...

  On Linux and FreeBSD yes but this is a brand new cross-platform version.
  
  The initial Labs release might actually feel like a step back on Linux/FreeBSD because this is an early implementation and hence has a few extra bugs. However in the long run this is a benefit for Linux/FreeBSD users as well because any bugs that do exist are more likely to be cross-platform and hence will have higher priority when we come to fix them. At the moment Linux/FreeBSD users sometimes suffer as our old implementation was quite different to the other two platforms and hence we had a few unique bugs that only affected us.
  
  This is not to say that there won't still be platform specific bugs, there always are but it is better that the implementations are as similar as possible across desktop platforms.

• ClashCityRockerclashcityrockerThursday, December 15, 2011 3:26:32 PM

  Seems to be working very nicely. If you end the OperaPluginWrapper.exe in task manager, all the plugin areas show a nice little Plugin Crashed logo that informs you of the fact. Nice touch.
  
  The ability to have 32bit plugins ina 64bit browser is really good, nice to see Opera doing this, as Firefox, Chrome all require messy ways to achieve this with wrappers.
  
  Will be trying the x64 Win builds later.
  
  Do these bits of work have targets? (12 Beta?)
  
  Is the Labs release inline with the current 12 snapshot, newer or older?

• Ruarí ØdegaardruarioThursday, December 15, 2011 3:27:46 PM

  Even though the build might seem less interesting to Linux/FreeBSD users I would still very strongly encourage you test it and give feedback. We will switch to this in the future. This is your chance to say if you see things that are wrong or broken. Don't miss out on your chance to help make Opera better!

• Arjan van LeeuwenAVLThursday, December 15, 2011 3:28:55 PM

  Originally posted by clashcityrocker:

  Is the Labs release inline with the current 12 snapshot, newer or older?

  
  
  It's in line with the current snapshot.

• Trond JohannessenLiquidFrostThursday, December 15, 2011 3:29:41 PM

  So when are you going to address the recaptcha issue introduced in build 1145?

• led9Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:30:21 PM

  opera:config=> interpolate images = NO!!!
  BUT
  images = BLUR!
  
  что за *бучая ошибка, а? 64 битная опера - ну чудо и здорово, но почему картинки мутятся? что, всем всеравно? это что, так сложно исправить?

• AvolaThursday, December 15, 2011 3:32:26 PM

  
  Is it supposed to say 32? I'm running the 64 bit version on Win7 64.

• Arjan van LeeuwenAVLThursday, December 15, 2011 3:34:41 PM

  Originally posted by Avola:

  Is it supposed to say 32? I'm running the 64 bit version on Win7 64.

  
  This means you are running a plugin that is 32-bit, even though Opera itself is 64-bit.
  
  You can see which plugin it is from opera:plugins. In 64-bit Opera, Architecture: Native means the plugin is 64-bit as well.

• StayPuftThursday, December 15, 2011 3:37:32 PM

  Scrolling is very slow here http://www.youtube.com/ (with new ui)
  Windows 7 SP1 64 Bits Using Flash 11.2 64 Bits

• Eduardo Garri PérezegarripThursday, December 15, 2011 3:51:18 PM

  Sometimes when I close Opera this message appears.
  
  
  
  Windows 7 x64.

• ToxigeneThursday, December 15, 2011 3:55:30 PM

  Originally posted by egarrip:

  Sometimes when I close Opera this message appears.Windows 7 x64.

  
  Same here.
  
  Being able to run 32 bit plugins from 64 bit version is really cool, though.

• OlliOlli91Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56:50 PM

  Is font smoothing disabled on this build for OSX? Because all fonts look very bad for me.
  Performance seems pretty good though (of course with disabled HWA).
  
  Edit: Well seems font smoothing is off when using Opera in 64bit mode, in 32bit everything's fine! So we got a first bug. And second: Skin colours don't work clean again, when having the tabbar on the left with previews enabled the skin colour is only applied on 0,5mm of the bar, next to the website content.
  
  Edit2: Peacekeeper also does not complete, stops at the first physics test.

• ruamanThursday, December 15, 2011 4:01:29 PM

  Cool...!!!
  Thank you.

• SBurnsideThursday, December 15, 2011 4:02:34 PM

  means will now be Opera Next and Opera Labs separately?

• Francesco De Domenicofrankdd89Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:08:55 PM

  Thanks for the external plugin container, and thank you for a 64bit release.

• Ruarí ØdegaardruarioThursday, December 15, 2011 4:11:25 PM

  Originally posted by SBurnside:

  means will now be Opera Next and Opera Labs separately?

  Other recent Opera Labs also installed separately, e.g. the Camera and Pages Labs release installed separately from Next as well. Furthermore all Labs install separately from each other.
  
  Opera Next shows how the main Opera is progressing as we move towards the next major release.
  
  Opera Labs showcases features in development off the main development branch. These features may appear in the next major release or they may appear much further down the line.

• XombiemubaidrThursday, December 15, 2011 4:14:55 PM

  
  
  Why does Opera not release memory adter tabs being closed, does it remember content for next visit? How it can be disabled?
  
  
  
  -PLayed 4 youtube.com videos, memory usage was about 158Mb(Opera plugin wrapper)
  -Closed all tabs.
  -Memory usage reduced to 148Mb (Opera plugin wrapper) Just 10Mb memory release?
  
  
  Not even a single tab is open now in Opera but;
  Memory usage (~400Mb Opera main process)+ Opera plugin wrapper (~148MB)
  
  
  
  
  Windows 7
  H/W On
  AMD 5750

• AsiresThursday, December 15, 2011 4:15:10 PM

  Extremely right cursor position can't grab scrollbar. x64 win build on win 7.

• Trond JohannessenLiquidFrostThursday, December 15, 2011 4:19:26 PM

  Crashes during DOM test in Peacekeeper, no information about the crash given. 64 bit version, win7 x64

• DanielDD64Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:20:09 PM

  CPU Usage still pretty high (x64 Windows).
  Feels very experimental.

• nimu_channimuchanThursday, December 15, 2011 4:34:00 PM

  Wow..Good job!! Thank you.

• kollitajaThursday, December 15, 2011 4:45:03 PM

  Finally, Thank You!

• d4rkn1ghtThursday, December 15, 2011 4:47:32 PM

  64-bit!!

• King CrimsonThursday, December 15, 2011 5:04:11 PM

  64bit?
  
  WOW!
  
  Thanks!

• tisazalayThursday, December 15, 2011 5:27:46 PM

  It's being a long time without a post from me but I guess this is worth it. Thanks for 64bit and thanks for fixing the missing search toolbar after you press Ctrl-T twice.

• Christophchristoph142Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:35:26 PM

  Yeah! Christmas already?

• NiColaoSNikDaMarkThursday, December 15, 2011 5:47:39 PM

  Originally posted by mubaidr:

  (~400Mb Opera main process)+ Opera plugin wrapper (~148MB)
  
  
  
  
  Windows 7
  H/W On
  AMD 5750

  Since you have HWA on, add a few hundreds of MBs of Video Memory as well. :S

• ncc50446Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:48:00 PM

  Thanks
  Not sure if this is just from this one, or the previous Opera 12 snapshots as well, but I had my background and everything go black, as seen here: http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5634/operablack.png
  I had HWA on. On the 12 snapshots I had turned HWA off due to text vanishing. This doesn't happen at first. I was using the Lab build for about 20 minutes before it happened.
  
  Vega backend: OpenGL
  
  Blocklist version: 1.0.4
  Blocklist status for 2D: Supported
  Blocklist status for 3D: Supported
  GL_VENDOR: X.Org R300 Project
  GL_RENDERER: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
  GL_VERSION: 2.1 Mesa 7.11.2
  
  Edit: Fedora 16 i686 KDE

• SBurnsideThursday, December 15, 2011 5:51:29 PM

  Thank you! works fine, never crashes! with respect to the interface would be more convenient if the page refresh button located in the address bar http://files.myopera.com/SBurnside/albums/9150602/firefox5.png

• Robert MeijersRobert90Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:53:59 PM

  Ruari, as you're speaking of stability improvements (in Linux). Does this mean a lot of the plugin crashes will be solved? I've got an awful lot of plugin crashes (for example DSK-347408 (for which I now see the site changed) and a lot of times when closing a youtube tab). Are these problems in flash or are these bugs of the Opera plugin implementation (which will be solved with this new plugin handling)?

• woj-tekThursday, December 15, 2011 5:54:19 PM

  it took about half gigabyte of memory for starter, then scrolling the pages was very laggy (and I mean 'click on the scrollbar, drag it, wait about dozen of seconds, pages move few pixels')..

• Pierrera-monThursday, December 15, 2011 6:01:07 PM

  Thanks for this Christmas Labs release
  Very high CPU usage and very slow scroll (HWA=1 and 32 bits Flash plugin) on http://www.pcinpact.com/

• KilokilozaThursday, December 15, 2011 6:09:02 PM

  Wow... this is smooooth on my system. Behaving very nicely... very resource friendly and responsive.
  
  Thank you team!

• ClashCityRockerclashcityrockerThursday, December 15, 2011 6:13:21 PM

  About to install the 64bit build, I have always been very sceptical of 64bit software unless it's a real number-cruncher, as the added memory "bloat" of 64-bitness, (swollen pointers etc) may vastly outweigh the benefits in a mere web browser...
  
  Lets see....
  

• TanselTanshaydarThursday, December 15, 2011 6:19:56 PM

  One more reason to love Opera. 64 bit Windows release is one of the best things happened to me from Opera

• exzentrikThursday, December 15, 2011 6:32:45 PM

  Plugin Wrapper crashes on this site:
  
  http://www.the-voice-of-germany.de/video/
  
  After that, the whole browser freezes a few seconds. But it doesn't crash.
  
  Opera x64, Win 7 x64, HWA ON, Flash Player x64

• konicThursday, December 15, 2011 6:34:18 PM

  OK, now, how about official portable versions?

• Christian RivestChris260Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:38:45 PM

  Works well if unite disabled ...

• exzentrikThursday, December 15, 2011 7:02:34 PM

  Originally posted by konic:

  OK, now, how about official portable versions?

  
  
  Opera is already portable. Just choose the USB installation in the setup options.

• UnrealmirakulixThursday, December 15, 2011 7:05:26 PM

  THX for x64