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Haven’t you heard‽ Stability is the word‼

September 27, 2010 · by Daniel Aleksandersen

It is getting colder and the mornings are dark here in Oslo. Fall is definitely here. (At least the fall TV premiers are lined up one after another in the TV guide.)

The highlights in this snapshot include:
  • Frequent “premature shutdowns” fixed
  • On demand plug-ins option now in the Preference dialog

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog

Desktop/cross-platform
  • DSK-299046 (Overlapping lines in address field dropdown)
  • DSK-312986 (Crash when saving file while page redirects)
  • DSK-313717 (Add opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableOnDemandPlugin to the Preference dialog)
  • DSK-295433 (100% CPU when Links panel search finds more than 1 result)

Windows
  • DSK-311379 (Mouse panning not always working)
  • DSK-311558 (Crash after leaving a tab with a flash with wmode="transparent")
  • DSK-312213 (Random crash on Window systems with Aero disabled)
  • DSK-314321 (“Use Opera as default browser” installer option causes a crash)

Mac
  • DSK-313323 (Standalone widgets crash on exit) (tested)
  • DSK-312794 (Remove the separator between the address and search field, but keep some empty space as the resizer)
  • DSK-313321 (Tools: Dragonfly menu entry incorrectly disabled)
  • DSK-313248 (Edit commands not working in Content Blocker)

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

  • Daniel Hendrycks27. September 2010, 11:23

    :up:

    Originally posted by desktopteam:

    DSK-311379 (Mouse panning not always working)


    Gwahaha, it works!

    Share some of the info from the start-up logs? (Averages, etc.)
  • Gereford27. September 2010, 11:27

    Thx, testing
  • Luca Viozzi27. September 2010, 11:28

    finally! :)
    testing!
  • Daniel Aleksandersen27. September 2010, 11:29

    My Opera is having a bad day. Comments may be delayed and this post may not be visible for everyone in the feeds and blog front page. This should resolve itself if you just wait a bit.
  • sabisan27. September 2010, 11:33

    Testing...

    EDIT: I really miss comment-upload-picture. It would be much easier to explain/show some things directly from the uploaded picture.
    EDIT2: Ouh, I see other people uploading pics to their MyOpera-account and then attaching them :up:
  • Nicolai Thorsen Staurvik27. September 2010, 11:54

    But the installwindow-graphics still says Opera 10.60 :P
  • set27. September 2010, 11:54

    Don't know if this is on my end only, the new on-demand preference is unaligned

  • Daniel Aleksandersen27. September 2010, 11:56

    Originally posted by sutekh:

    Don't know if this is on my end only, [img/]

    It is supposed to be indented nuder the ‘enable plug-ins’ option. The new option depends on the other one.

    Originally posted by Staurvik:

    But the installwindow-graphics still says Opera 10.

    As it will until management decide what to call the Next version.
  • arekm27. September 2010, 11:59

    DSK-313809 (mouse paste seriously broken for last 2 snapshots makes me sad)
  • nimu_chan27. September 2010, 12:13

    Oh...Thanks :up:
    Download now.
  • Haavard27. September 2010, 12:22

    Reminder:

    Please do not "spam" the comments. That is, there is no need to repeat the same thing multiple times when it has already been mentioned by other people, even in older snapshots.

    If you find that you can't or won't test this build for whatever reason, there's no reason to leave a comment about that. This is a snapshots, so you can expect problems.

    Please read the big, red warning about the nature of snapshots. If testing unfinished software is not acceptable to you, I recommend that you stick to final versions.

    Thanks!
  • Daniel Aleksandersen27. September 2010, 12:23

    Originally posted by arekm:

    Gah, unix team (if there is actually more the one person working on unix) seems to be on a vacation all the time :-(

    There is more than one person working on Unix, and they are doing a good job.

    You may have noticed that the Unix fixes usually comes in separately from ‘general’ and Mac fixes because the Unix team’s bug fixing is kept separate. They are working on it separately BECAUSE it is prioritized as Unix is still a bit behind the other two platforms in terms of quality. They are catching up really fast, though.

    (Though their main QA did just get back from a well deserved vacation in Japan.) :)
  • mapel11027. September 2010, 12:26

    Mod edit: Spam removed.
  • Nicolas27. September 2010, 12:26

    Please ameliorate the new mail panel. It's impossible to read RSS when we have more than 10 flux and message accordion open.
  • Fav27. September 2010, 12:27

    Can anyone tell me if this build now opens RSS reader only and not the whole panel when using keyboard shortcut?
  • Trasak27. September 2010, 12:45

    Mod edit: Spam removed. User warned.
  • tim7127. September 2010, 12:45

    By the way - "Latest snapshot" links on the right of this page are totally out of date - for quite a while...
  • Kamalesh27. September 2010, 12:48

    Would you like further data with this (OSX) snapshot on startup/shutdown profiling, also?

    Nice addition to formalize on-demand plug-ins...please consider adding "on-demand" in Site Prefs, too (hint, hint). ;)
  • sirnh127. September 2010, 12:49

    I like the new "on demand" option. Will the 'on demand plug-ins' also be available in the site preferences screens? I can imagine that someone would like to set 'on demand plug-ins' on in the browser, but turn 'on demand plug-ins' off (while keeping plug-ins on) on a site like youtube.
  • pursanovd27. September 2010, 13:02

    Can anyone explain what actually 'on demand plug-ins' mean and what benefits it gives?
    Thank you.
  • prd327. September 2010, 13:05

    Originally posted by pursanovd:

    Can anyone explain what actually 'on demand plug-ins' mean and what benefits it gives?


    Did you try enabling it, and then opening a page using a plugin (like YouTube)?
  • pursanovd27. September 2010, 13:09

    Originally posted by prd3:

    Did you try enabling it, and then opening a page using a plugin (like YouTube)?


    aa :) Thanks..So Opera doesn't load plugins until needed, preventing memory to be overused..But what are disadvantages of this approach?
  • prd327. September 2010, 13:10

    Originally posted by pursanovd:

    So Opera doesn't load plugins until needed, preventing memory to be overused


    Or rather preventing viruses from spreading through Flash, Java and other plugins.

    Or preventing annoying ads.

    Or preventing lots of data from being downloaded on limited connections.
  • pursanovd27. September 2010, 13:12

    ..then it seems really, really great addition! For now i saw 1 "minus" on youtube: you cant see preview picture when opening page with the player.
  • Daniel Aleksandersen27. September 2010, 13:13

    PS: On demand plug-ins is not new. We’ve had it since a few final versions back in opera:config. But having the option in the Preference dialog is new.
  • pursanovd27. September 2010, 13:15

    Originally posted by daniel:

    On demand plug-ins is not new


    oops, missed it :) Anyway, thank you for it :)
  • Алексей27. September 2010, 13:16

    :D :up: Спасибо!!!! Win7 - 32 Bit
  • Penge27. September 2010, 13:31

    Originally posted by kamalesh:

    please consider adding "on-demand" in Site Prefs, too (hint, hint).


    +1000!!! :cheers: wishlist topic


    And very thanks for the autoscroll fix. Works in iframes again. :)
  • decodedthought27. September 2010, 13:33

    :up:
  • noews27. September 2010, 13:40

    I can't type "&" in the traditional chinese version of google search i.e. www.google.com.hk.
    But I can type it when change it to the english version.
    Is this a bug?
  • Caterpillar27. September 2010, 13:43

    Anyone on Linux has the bug of central mouse button?
    http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=740862

    I'm going to open a bug report in a few hours
  • Michel Budnyatsky27. September 2010, 14:11

    One more thing regarding to on demand plug-in.

    On audio page of russian social network site Vkontakte.ru / VK.com (int. version) there is a list of user's tracks, whiche are played by Flash-based player, before enable on demand plug-in you just click on play button on first song and player playbacks you all your tracks, but when «on demand plug-in» is enabled you have click on enable plugin each time when player switch between tracks, it's very uncomfortable.
  • Bala727. September 2010, 14:17

    9053 continues to crash on Yahoo mail.

    Win7 up to date.
    x86 and x64
  • Malte Steckmeister27. September 2010, 14:24

    Really dig the interrobang! ;-)
  • BS-Harou27. September 2010, 14:28

    I really dislike to say that, but the mouse panning is still not fixed completely :/

    Click on some page with mouse wheel and move the cursor a bit below (so the site starts to scroll a bit), wait few second (5-10) and then it stops working :/

    Can anyone confirm?
  • Mihkel27. September 2010, 14:31

    Unix bug DSK-304220 (Dead keys and cyrillic fail if XMODIFIERS is set but an IME is not used) still unfixed in 10.70 branch :(
    (Was fixed in 10.62 RC.)
  • janek201227. September 2010, 14:33

    Mod edit: Please do not spam the blog. Give other people a chance to post their feedback, and refrain from reposting the same thing over and over again.
  • gibson27. September 2010, 14:38

    Originally posted by prd3:

    Originally posted by pursanovd:

    So Opera doesn't load plugins until needed, preventing memory to be overused

    Or rather preventing viruses from spreading through Flash, Java and other plugins. Or preventing annoying ads. Or preventing lots of data from being downloaded on limited connections.
    This sounds like exactly what I have been waiting for! When Opera is restarted with tons of tabs, it's annoying when one of those Flash thingies does autoplay (many don't, as far as I can tell, until you activate the tab). And I started longing for a way to identify every tab which has Flash, just to be able to go around and close a few of them. This seems much better though! I will go upgrade now. Thanks, Opera team!
  • Malgalad27. September 2010, 14:38

    The browser hangs on for a while when searching http://plugins.jquery.com/search/node/ Can anyone confirm? Win7 x32.
  • r2151427. September 2010, 14:44

    Hey people! What about XP SP1 and lower?
  • prd327. September 2010, 14:46

    Originally posted by r21514:

    Hey people! What about XP SP1 and lower?


    What about it? Did you have anything specific to say, or did you expect people to read your mind?
  • Caterpillar27. September 2010, 14:49

    Opera in Linux still has a BIG cpu usage in idle... Unix Team should focus on this...
  • Jimmy Tsatsos27. September 2010, 14:51

    Opera freezes completely when visiting http://www.all4coding.com/
    Windows 7 x64
  • prd327. September 2010, 14:56

    Originally posted by Caterpillar:

    Opera in Linux still has a BIG cpu usage in idle... Unix Team should focus on this...


    How can they focus on something without a proper bug report? I mean, shouldn't you be listing stuff like your PC specs, Linux distribution, what pages are open, whether you are using mail/feeds/etc. or not... I mean, basic stuff anyone should do when reporting problems.
  • minho27. September 2010, 14:59

    Originally posted by Malgalad:

    The browser hangs on for a while when searching http://plugins.jquery.com/search/node/ Can anyone confirm? Win7 x32.


    Confirmed.
    win xp pro sp3
  • Nekeav27. September 2010, 14:59

    I have problems with contacts in the mail. When you select one, it shows another, or it shows several disordered.
    Windows 7
  • EricJH27. September 2010, 15:02

    Thanks for the new release.

    Frequent “premature shutdowns” fixed

    Do crashes of Opera on Google Docs without the crash logger starting up fall under this category
  • prd327. September 2010, 15:06

    Originally posted by EricJH:

    Do crashes of Opera on Google Docs without the crash logger starting up fall under this category


    Why don't you try it, and find out?
  • berend ytsma27. September 2010, 15:08

    Originally posted by Nekeav:

    I have problems with contacts in the mail. When you select one, it shows another, or it shows several disordered.
    Windows 7


    reported this months ago as DSK-288065
  • Ferris27. September 2010, 15:20

    Mod edit: Please do not spam the blog with the same problem reports over and over again.

About this article

Published inDesktop Team blog
DateSeptember 27, 2010
AuthorDaniel Aleksandersen
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