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HTML5, and then some

June 14, 2010 · by Haavard

The web is moving quickly these days, and Opera would like to stay at the forefront of open web standards. Opera has been promoting HTML5 since the beginning (and HTML5 actually has its roots at Opera), and in this build we have added four features related to HTML5 and other open standards, and an update for a previous implementation:


We have also added sets of specific fonts to be used for CJK web sites, which should improve readability. We would appreciate your feedback on this.

In addition to these new/improved features there are quite a few bug fixes for Linux/FreeBSD. Mac users will notice that plug-ins will generally perform better too. Take a look at the changelog for more information.

Note that there are no Linux PPC builds for this snapshot.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot of Opera. It is released for testing purposes, and there may be serious bugs and unfinished features.

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Changelog

Desktop and Core
  • Bing is the new Speed Dial search engine
  • WebM, Geolocation, Web Workers, Offline Web Applications, Cross-Document Messaging
  • Added sets of default fonts per language
  • DSK-301799 (Crash on exit after visiting page with Flash)
  • CORE-30617 (Crashes when closing tabs)

Linux/FreeBSD
  • DSK-267262 (Support Clipboard Managers)
  • DSK-300970 (First typed letter disappears when adding a web page to Speed Dial)
  • DSK-298548 (Access keys (Shift+Esc) do not work)
  • DSK-295563 (Opera should not fail to start if only Core fonts are installed)
  • DSK-301410 (Tooltip not cancelled when mouse moves away from Opera)
  • DSK-301128 (Problems with colors in certain themes)
  • DSK-301633 (Tooltip text color is hardcoded)
  • DSK-301651 (Goto Page (F2) dialog can not show a dropdown if compositing is not available)
  • DSK-300106 (Crash when launching widget or Dragonfly with 16-bit color depth)
  • DSK-292110 ("Installed-Size" of a Debian package should be measured in KB)
  • DSK-292282 (Can't install on Centos because of missing symbol FT_Library_SetLcdFilter)
  • DSK-299246 (Problems copying text containing Unicode characters)
  • DSK-300824 (X11 based color picker dialog missing)
  • DSK-288814 (Opera does not respond to GTK theme changes while running)
  • DSK-293797 (Polyester style has wrong unchecked state image)
  • DSK-297194 (Ctrl+Tab window can not be opened if previously canceled)
  • DSK-301305 (Zoom Slider missing in X11 version)
  • DSK-301340 (Printer dialog should not fail silently if CUPS can not be loaded)
  • DSK-300739 (Add support for X11 based printer dialog)
  • DSK-284289 (Implement color selector)

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

  • cyberdude m14. June 2010, 11:13

    here comes new snapshot....:D :wizard: :hat:
    wait with webm support yahooooooo!!!....
  • BS-Harou14. June 2010, 11:16

    :hat: awesome! ... btw its already Beta??
  • OperaDrBruce14. June 2010, 11:16

    Yes! And WebM, omg! :cheers:
  • Josemi14. June 2010, 11:17

    The use of Bing is due to an agree with Microsoft?
  • Gertjan Lettink14. June 2010, 11:29

    Pull down search, Manage Search Enginges, click Bing, click Delete. Done.

    thanks opera people.
  • bachokocho14. June 2010, 11:29

    WOW, I knew there will be something, but these are quite a few features implemented :smile:
    Your work is appreciated!
  • Josemi14. June 2010, 11:32

    Great Build!:yes:

    I Only hope that these features continue existing in next snapshot, not as Geolocation dissapear some months ago.
  • Pleple14. June 2010, 11:33

    thanks a lot, went to the test)
  • Idan Adar14. June 2010, 11:33

    Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.

    WebM demo seemingly fails as well.
    This is what I get: http://i47.tinypic.com/2rfr3h2.png
  • Kai Ockendorf14. June 2010, 11:34

    Originally posted by YtseJam:

    Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text)


    for me too!

    W7x64
  • BS-Harou14. June 2010, 11:35

    Originally posted by YtseJam:

    Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.



    same for me, I had to enable geolocation in opera:config (checkbox in geolocation and set number from "-1" to "2" in User Prefs)
  • Rolf14. June 2010, 11:35

    Mod edit:

    1. No swearing or other offensive behavior
    2. Describe problems properly

  • Arguggi14. June 2010, 11:37

    Thanks! :D
  • Idan Adar14. June 2010, 11:39

    However, everything seems to be OK on the laptop...
  • BS-Harou14. June 2010, 11:39

    In "Web workers" demo - Canvas is NOT running whilst an prime number finder runs in a worker
  • Taxidriver0514. June 2010, 11:41

    Hmmm... When will there be a fix of the Silverlight-bug???

    (OS: Windows 7 Professional (x64))
  • Jimmy Tsatsos14. June 2010, 11:42

    Originally posted by YtseJam:

    Geolocation demo fails for me (red-color "failed" text) despite getting the User Agreement and toolbar.

    WebM demo seemingly fails as well.


    For me Geolocation and WebM are working fine with default settings.
    Win7x64 location Greece
  • fresco14. June 2010, 11:43

    Since the Saturday build my middle mouse button doesn't do anything in Opera (it is set to open the link in a background tab).
    Using Win7x64, Setpoint 6.1 and and Logitech MX1000. It worked perfectly until build 3413.
    /edit: I just figured out that it works when I set my middle mouse button to "Open" within Opera. However it does NOT WORK when I set it to "Open in new tab" or "Open in background tab". Please fix this!

    The new features:
    - WebM seems to work great although the video pauses when I right-click the page (audio doesn't pause).
    - GeoLocation, Offline Apps and COM also work great
    - the Web Worker didn't seem to work for me somehow ...

    Oh, and before going final: Please fix these skin issues under Win7x64:
    http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=431521
  • Slamdex14. June 2010, 11:45

    Originally posted by BS-Harou:

    In "Web workers" demo - Canvas is NOT running whilst an prime number finder runs in a worker


    Which is why it says right there - "might be a slight delay before it starts working"?
  • BS-Harou14. June 2010, 11:48

    Originally posted by Slamdex:

    Which is why it says right there - "might be a slight delay before it starts working"?



    it doesn't work even after delay P:
  • MaxFragg14. June 2010, 11:50

    geolocation works fine here (Ubuntu Linux x68)
  • BS-Harou14. June 2010, 11:51

    btw am I the only one with new font for "input" element? (not CJK)
  • Vectronic14. June 2010, 11:52

    These two preferences have periods on the end...
    User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Session.
    User Prefs|Maximum Number Of Web Workers Per Window.

    Like OMG I know right? Showstopper!...lol...
  • Виктор14. June 2010, 11:53

    Finished instal 3409, this error?
  • cyberdude m14. June 2010, 11:54

    for me all demos are working.......and offline web apps is great feature....when working in offline mode and refreshing this page it loads the entire page normally.....
    win 7 32 bit
  • Josemi14. June 2010, 11:56

    Ohhh Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! Taringa.Net working after several builds!!:no:


    But Word Web App continues getting freeze on 95%... :frown:
  • Bill P14. June 2010, 11:57

    html5 on Linux (64bit) seems to use 2x's the cpu then Flash playing YouTube videos

    is this the norm?
  • Enrico14. June 2010, 11:58

    All the demo work for me.
    But i still have these problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9KeMjFcOAs

    When scrolling down the page, this happens: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1602/scrolldown.jpg

    lubuntu 10.04 32 bit
  • nimu_chan14. June 2010, 12:00

    Thanks :smile:

    DSK-273213, or when did you?
  • experttease14. June 2010, 12:02

    @BS-Harou confirmed, canvas NOT running.
    XP SP3
  • Шуйский Николай [krigstask, Ŝtérkrìg]14. June 2010, 12:03

    No news about fonts on Linux yet… Rolling back to 6346.
  • arghwashier14. June 2010, 12:05

    lol geolocation puts me in the dutch parliament building
  • Andrew14. June 2010, 12:06

    WOW!!! You are the Best!!!!!!!
  • joshas14. June 2010, 12:06

    From html5test.com :
    6355 - 129 and 4 bonus points
    6363 - 159 and 7 bonus points
    out of a total of 300 points

    Looking good.
  • Luca Viozzi14. June 2010, 12:07

    can't clic on the pop-up blocked message.
    Bug appeared in the last snapshot.

    Xp sp3
  • Jaka14. June 2010, 12:12

    the webm demo/youtube also don't work here (custom 32-bit linux).
  • Josemi14. June 2010, 12:14

    Originally posted by lynxlynxlynx:

    the webm demo/youtube also don't work here (custom linux).



    Cant confirm, Have you enabled youtube.com/html5?
  • Ruari Ødegaard14. June 2010, 12:15

    Originally posted by Sterkrig:

    No news about fonts on Linux yet… Rolling back to 6346.

    Hey, Sterkrig you don't need to mention this every single snapshot. I noticed you complained about others repeating issues but you are starting to do it yourself. P:

    Just look out in future change logs for further font work and if nothing is mentioned you should not expect a change (yet).

    EDIT: We know that we have a couple more things that need adjusting to improve the situation for a minority of users.
  • haruto886114. June 2010, 12:16

    DSK-279742 (Incorrect font used for UTF8 page without lang specified) returns.
    It is a pardon that I am made to have already written the bug report of this problem.
  • Ruari Ødegaard14. June 2010, 12:17

    Originally posted by arghwashier:

    lol geolocation puts me in the dutch parliament building

    Geoloation work on Linux is not finished. It is only the start of the work. it is finished for the other two platforms (Mac and Windows). More updates on this will be coming your way soon.
  • Volkodav14. June 2010, 12:17

    Same as Bill P mentioned here on Ubuntu x86_64- CPU usage too high
  • samMD14. June 2010, 12:18

    ha Bing included default in opera and has a speed dial search excellent!
  • Bhikkhu Pesala14. June 2010, 12:19

    Originally posted by Rijk:

    not having a top border on the window with the default window buttons was definitely a bug (and ugly and clearly broken)

    True enough in a window, perhaps, but when maximised the window has no border anyway.

    Fixing the bug should have restored the "Chrome drag area" not broken the "Show only when needed" setting.
  • blang14. June 2010, 12:20

    *right click, open in background tab still doesn't work the right way
    *still have bug DSK-297676 :frown: (get duplicate characters with fn+option+number)
  • Giuseppe Bilotta14. June 2010, 12:20

    Geolocation not working for me either. Accepted the terms, enabled, changed the settings from -1 to 2 ... always puts me somewhere in New York, almost on the other side of the Earth wrt of where I am 8-D
  • Giuseppe Bilotta14. June 2010, 12:20

    Forgot to specify: Linux x86_64, running on Debian unstable
  • Ruari Ødegaard14. June 2010, 12:21

    Originally posted by gbilotta:

    Geolocation not working for me either. Accepted the terms, enabled, changed the settings from -1 to 2 ... always puts me somewhere in New York, almost on the other side of the Earth wrt of where I am 8-D

    Originally posted by gbilotta:

    Forgot to specify: Linux x86_64, running on Debian unstable

    Then it is expected that it doesn't work entirely correctly yet.

    I have updated the main blog post to clarify this.
  • Jacek Jędrzejewski14. June 2010, 12:28

    DSK-301554, my widget "RMF RDS" http://widgets.opera.com/widget/7354/ does not work on 10.60, because you have broken something
  • Шуйский Николай [krigstask, Ŝtérkrìg]14. June 2010, 12:29

    Hey, Sterkrig you don't need to mention this every single snapshot. I noticed you complained about others repeating issues but you are starting to do it yourself.


    Well, I've got nothing against small comments about kinda major issues not mentioned in changelog or known issues d-:E
    Personally I always search comments for some keywords like "fonts" or something before anything else, if I have my own petty pending bug (-%E

    Just look out in future change logs for further font work and if nothing is mentioned you should not expect a change.


    It'd be better if we heard anything about our fonts. Simple "Yep, seen the bug, WIP" would do. "Blurry fonts on some Linux distros" in Known Issues is all I want, really.
  • Bill P14. June 2010, 12:34

    bookmarks process in 64bit Linux seems to be performing much better, as in not hanging the system for up to 30 sec or more when deleting or opening a bookmark's properties. But still not as quick as earlier versions, as there's still a lag (<2 sec) though not a system hang cause of cpu spike

About this article

Published inDesktop Team blog
DateJune 14, 2010
AuthorHaavard
Tagswebm, html5, web workers, offline web applications, geolocation
OriginalInternet Archive