Mac Final 10.5x RC

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• Lucero Jr.16. April 2010, 14:15

  Hard work, guys!
  
  Thanks for the RC

• Alastair16. April 2010, 14:24

  This had better not be the final release of 10.52...
  It still has the spaces bug. As far as I'm concerned this bug needs to be fixed before it can be called a RC let alone a final!!

• victor16. April 2010, 14:30

  haaaaaaaa thank, at last, it's time to shoot that update to the mac world who has been waiting for you for a long time!

• Daniel Aleksandersen16. April 2010, 14:32

  Originally posted by alastair27:

  It still has the spaces bug.

  No? “Opera window does not stick to its designated Space” should have been fixed in the previous snapshot. This RC contains the changes from that snapshot too. (As always unless otherwise noted.) If you feel that it is not fixed, then please provide us with more details/screen recording demo of what functionality remains broken.

• ossi8116. April 2010, 14:32

  crasheds for me on some internal java applets at https://e-campus.uibk.ac.at/portal/_cpsindex.html (10.2 worked fine)
  
  a report should have been send.

• Tri M. Nguyen16. April 2010, 14:36

  Originally posted by alastair27:

  This had better not be the final release of 10.52...
  
  It still has the spaces bug. As far as I'm concerned this bug needs to be fixed before it can be called a RC let alone a final!!

  Is it the one where Opera follow all spaces? I've had that one previous build. But not the two last one. (clean Opera install on 10.6.3).
  
  Yey cmd+t and cmd+n opens new tabs when all tabs are closed. BUT, cmd+t opens TWO tabs, while cmd+n opens just one (just to mention it )

• Dan16. April 2010, 14:37

  Awesome! Can't wait to try it out this evening.

• Alastair16. April 2010, 14:38

  Originally posted by danaleks:

  No? It should have been fixed in the previous snapshot. This RC contains the changes from that snapshot too. (As always unless otherwise noted.) If you feel that it is not fixed, then please provide us with more details/screen recording demo of what functionality remains broken.

  I will get back to you on that. I first downloaded the Intel only version and it seemed to still have the bug. I tried the UB and it seemed fine. I am currently redownloading the Intel version and if I have the bug again I will edit this comment and link you to a screenrec.
  If it's fine I'll let you know too.
  
  (Still not happy with the way dragging the window works though:
  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=519351&t=1271058354&page=1#comment5081941 )
  
  EDIT: Ok, you guys seem to be right. It is fixed. I might add that I updated from build 8308 using the autoupdater before.

• blang16. April 2010, 14:42

  Thank you Spaces was fixed for me in the previous build too.
  But I have a question since we have to move some preference files again – which file saves the info of what content I have blocked on pages?

• newsteve16. April 2010, 14:42

  DSK-294384 overlay menus and flash are conflicting each other:
  1. Go to http://www.hetzner.de/
  2. Move your mouse over "webhosting" or "root server", while the flash
  animation is running. Also move your mouse over the menu items.
  3. The overlay menus get corrupted.(perhaps you have to wait some seconds)
  
  This creates ugly artifacts! Fix it!

• Alastair16. April 2010, 14:50

  blang: ~/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/urlfilter.ini

• newsteve16. April 2010, 14:53

  Logout of GMX.net is not possible! I get this Opera error message
  "Weiterleitungsstatus
  
  Die URL wurde nach weitergeleitet. Bitte klicken Sie den Link, um dorthin zu gelangen.
  Generiert durch Opera."
  But there is no click-able link. In the error source code I find only a empty link: a href="" /a
  
  In all other bowsers this works flawlessly.

• Dave16. April 2010, 14:53

  MUCH better. I can use this without it crashing....
  
  Good job. OSX 10.4.11 PPC

• Haavard16. April 2010, 15:00

  Originally posted by alastair27:

  This had better not be the final release of 10.52...
  It still has the spaces bug. As far as I'm concerned this bug needs to be fixed before it can be called a RC let alone a final!!

  Did you actually download this build and test it before commenting?

• Alastair16. April 2010, 15:04

  Originally posted by haavard:

  Did you actually download this build and test it before commenting?

  Did you actually read my other posts?

• Hans Bendiksen16. April 2010, 15:06

  Great work! :-)
  
  I found 3 visual glitches that would be great if they got fixed...
  http://files.myopera.com/hansbendiksen/files/opera1.tiff
  http://files.myopera.com/hansbendiksen/files/opera2.tiff
  http://files.myopera.com/hansbendiksen/files/opera3.tiff

• silon16. April 2010, 15:14

  is it just me, or is it like, theres still quite many bugs that we would rather see fixed first, and not have opera go "final" with these bugs?
  
  the Facebook search bug has been mentioned before, its still around. DSK-289151
  
  I cant sign out of Tumblr because i cant select the signout option. or help. DSK-288215
  
  please please please get these FIXED before it goes final!!!! =(

• newsteve16. April 2010, 15:20

  Somebody deletes my comments here...
  
  So again:
  DSK-294395 interface defects at certificate errors:
  1. Go to https://dedected.org and look at the certificate error.
  2. The round endings of the "tabs" in the error window are missing (see
  http://img641.imageshack.us/i/bildschirmfoto20100415ul.png/ )
  3. Accept the error.
  4. The regular tab bar gets corrupted. (see
  http://img72.imageshack.us/i/bildschirmfoto20100415ui.png/ )
  
  DSK-294389 Dragging text in text fields copys the text insted of dragging:
  Text should be dragged not copied. Or at least allow modifiers like SHIFT
  to toggle dragging/copying.

• Olli16. April 2010, 15:22

  Stoll some bugs, not final - of course not, the last build was the most instable one in the last 2 or 3 weeks...but this one is quite good. No crashes so far, scrolling is better (sometimes the bottom bar scrolls up with the page, little UI bug) and is for me as fast as Safari. I'm still not able to resize youtube video (maybe you should test this with Flash 10.1, the final will come out in a few weeks).
  Looking out for more bugs...

• Pitiphong Phongpattranont16. April 2010, 15:22

  I can't click on button on Youtube video frame
  
  anybody happen?

• samMD16. April 2010, 15:25

  sweet will test !

• Olli16. April 2010, 15:26

  Originally posted by DeathscytheSephiroth:

  I can't click on button on Youtube video frame anybody happen?

  you mean the one to view fullscreen, or the other one to switch between small and bigger size? I mean THIS button. And although I use a Flash RC this works on every other browser. Btw is this build more than twice as fast as FF 3.6

• Pitiphong Phongpattranont16. April 2010, 15:29

  Originally posted by Olli91:

  Originally posted by DeathscytheSephiroth:

  I can't click on button on Youtube video frame anybody happen?

  you mean the one to view fullscreen, or the other one to switch between small and bigger size? I mean THIS button. And although I use a Flash RC this works on every other browser. Btw is this build more than twice as fast as FF 3.6

  Yes that ones (including select playtime and choose resolution)
  

• edvakf16. April 2010, 15:30

  Some shortcuts don't work. ex; Platform Mac, { Command=Switch to previous page
  

• newsteve16. April 2010, 15:34

  After fullscreen flash video I cannot open/close/switch tabs with mouse. Keyboard works.

• Tri M. Nguyen16. April 2010, 15:39

  ctrl + tab doesn't show the tab list. But it cycles through the tabs. Is it a new way to handle tab change, or just some minor bug?

• Jakob Henriksson16. April 2010, 15:51

  PPC seems to cause a lot of problems for you. I think it is reasonable to drop support for it in the next release ("version 11"). Any plans for this? Any comments in general? How large part of your Mac users are still on PPC? Such users can still use last version supporting it (10.5 which is a very good browser). Even though we sometimes want it, support for old platforms cannot go on forever.

• Tri M. Nguyen16. April 2010, 15:57

  When you download a file into the Download folder in OS X. Opera sets the folder as default download folder. But when you upload a file from another directory, Opera sets THAT directory as default download folder.

• Olli16. April 2010, 15:58

  Originally posted by DeathscytheSephiroth:

  Yes that ones (including select playtime and choose resolution)

  for me it's only the one ...I've reported this bug like a month ago!!

• barktwiggs16. April 2010, 16:03

  Slightly OT, but now that PPC support is optimized, when will Carakan and enhancements find their way onto the Internet Channel on the Wii? This would really improve the internet experience on the device. I understand if you can't commit to an ETA or even reveal you're working on it, but I'm just saying that there's a demand for it.

• Daniel Aleksandersen16. April 2010, 16:09

  Originally posted by b0kaj:

  PPC seems to cause a lot of problems for you.

  It’s working now, isn’t it?

  Originally posted by TriMN:

  ctrl + tab doesn't show the tab list. But it cycles through the tabs. Is it a new way to handle tab change, or just some minor bug?

  What you are looking for is Alt–Tab. Control–Tab is a different feature and have never displayed the tab cycler on Mac at least.

• Dustin Wilson16. April 2010, 16:15

  @Jakob: The problem is that some of Apple's PPC computers are still less than 4 years old, including the one I have presently at work. There's no reason to upgrade the G5 at work because it's still a functioning and fast computer. Opera supports computers on other platforms well older than that and for systems which have a smaller user base.
  
  I think, though, sometime in the not too distant future it would be appropriate to drop support for PPC Mac as I would imagine the user base on the old architecture isn't that large. In fact, I had already accepted that PPC wasn't going to be supported by 10.5 because it took so long for word to get back to us that it was going to be supported. Many developers are dropping support already.
  
  I'd like to say that the PPC stability is quite a bit better. I've been able to browse for 30 minutes so far without a crash. Great job on stability, guys. Looks like the deviantART login problem has been fixed. I never could figure out what exactly was going on, whether it was a problem on their end or the browser's.
  
  Anyway, there are some small UI problems on the Mac builds. I've pointed them out here. The fat border between the combined back and forward buttons has been fixed (\o/), but the grey stripe at the bottom of the window when status bar is disabled is still present in this build. It's not an error in the skin file as any custom skin I use contains a stripe at the bottom of the color or appearance of the window skin. The other one there about the margins on the address bar input is more of a nitpick. I could adjust that personally in a custom skin.

• Jakob Henriksson16. April 2010, 16:17

  Originally posted by danaleks:

  It’s working now, isn’t it?

  Probably, but I wouldn't know since I'm on Intel. It's not a complaint but rather a reality that platforms cannot be supported for ever. So, it would certainly free up some of your development time to stop supporting it at some point in the future. So, I was merely curious if you have any plans in this direction.

• Adrian16. April 2010, 16:22

  Gmail still crashes for me.
  Plus I'm still getting this:
  
  
  Other than Gmail, it has been very stable for me. I know us few PPC Mac users really appreciate all the work that you have put into making it work for us. Keep up the awesome work.
  
  Edit: Anyone else unable to change Quick Preferences from Opera menu? Mac OS X 10.5.8 PPC

• Peter Cooper Jr.16. April 2010, 16:24

  When will it be 64-bit?

• Jakob Henriksson16. April 2010, 16:28

  Originally posted by Khadgar:

  The problem is that some of Apple's PPC computers are still less than 4 years old, including the one I have presently at work. There's no reason to upgrade the G5 at work because it's still a functioning and fast computer. Opera supports computers on other platforms well older than that and for systems which have a smaller user base.

  Yes, you are probably right, it might be a little early to retire support for PPC. I was mainly interested in the general time-frame, because it's inevitable at some point.

• Tri M. Nguyen16. April 2010, 16:41

  Originally posted by danaleks:

  What you are looking for is Alt–Tab. Control–Tab is a different feature and have never displayed the tab cycler on Mac at least.

  What, haha, that was almost embarrassing. Can't believe I mixed up those two
  
  I've got a not so obvious crashing issue on IT's Learning. When open up pages that contains links to an external webpage. Since It's Learning doesn't links directly to that webpage when you add a link to the "tree". You get an internal it's learning page. And on that page you got the link to the external page. Reproduces is by:
  1. logging into It's Learning
  2. open a course and expand a folder containing lots of pages that links to external sites (haven't got to reproduce it on pages that contains internal files etc.)
  3. hold cmd and click on ... let's say 8 links almost rapidly... and then release the cmd button, and hit the 2 button to cycle to the next tab (with single key shortcut active in Opera settings).
  4. crash
  
  My tab settings are: "When cycling through tabs with option + Tab: Cycle in tab bar order", "When closing a tab: Activate the next tab", "Open new tab next to active". The rest is default.
  
  The it's learning layout is using framsets with some silly JS :]

• Dustin Wilson16. April 2010, 16:45

  Originally posted by apa240:

  Gmail still crashes for me.

  Confirmed. Just did for me, too. I'm not getting the weird coloring problem or the Quick Prefs problem. Weird.

• sinnfrei16. April 2010, 17:06

  Thanks, feels quite stable and much faster than 10.10
  
  Java plugin causes some visual glitches:
  Go to this URL and scroll up/down (slowly)
  https://www.finnzymes.fi/tm_determination.html
  For me it show the contents of the tab before when scrolling (so you may have to have another tab open before you open this page)
  
  And I would still vote for being able to resize and move the window as in 10.10 (using BetterTouchTool) - although this may not come as Opera is now using Cocoa and this limits the position/size - correct ?
  
  google-mail works for me
  
  [Mac OS X 10.6.3]

• Петър Славов16. April 2010, 17:11

  There still are problems with the Flash plugin. If you open an overlaid dialog box on top of a Flash movie by typing javascript:alert("something"); in the address bar, you will see corruptions or the Flash movie will completely disappear. You can try it on this site http://www.alphabounce.com/ , but it can happen on any other site using Flash.

• Daniele16. April 2010, 17:20

  stability and performance are very good on my macbook, but please, before release the final build, consider to refine the skin/appearence of opera. You've done a wonderful job for the Cocoa integration, but i think that you should improve at least two aspects:
  1- the upper left corner where the light blue of the panel bar melts with the grey of the tab. The problem in my opinion appears only when the first tab on the left is selected. On the contrary, when another tab is selected, the panel bar is separated from the tab bar with a thin line that gives a more pleasant effect (suggestion: try to move a little the first tab to the left, or use a thin line to divide);
  2- the buttons on the right present on the password manager/block ads bar. They are too squared, mac osx needs buttons with round edges.
  

• Christopher Unger16. April 2010, 17:27

  Rocker gestures to go back and forward bring up contextual menus when they shouldn't.
  
  GMail crashes on PPC.
  
  Thanks, guys!

• sinnfrei16. April 2010, 17:30

  There seems to be another visual glitch when using the Quicktime plugin, goto e.g. http://www.apple.com/ipad/gallery/#ad start the video and drag the time-slider to left/right - this causes flicker in repainting (only while dragging the slider)
  
  [Mac OS X 10.6.3]

• larsmarius16. April 2010, 17:31

  silverlight still goes white, and nrk webradio with flip4mac crashes opera... this cant be a final version? both of these things works with safari with same plugins

• seebs16. April 2010, 17:36

  But it still indents everything with "gt;" instead of ">" (note, I did not omit the ampersand) when replying with "wrap outgoing messages" turned off. Which I reported before.
  
  (But it fixes other stuff, so hey, it's better.)
  

• sinnfrei16. April 2010, 17:40

  Found another one: use mouse-gesture in speed-dial to close the tab (down, right) brings up context-menu first (as if right-clicked only), but if you left-click somewhere (outside the context-menu) the tab is closed. Happens only in speed-dial
  
  [Mac OS X 10.6.3]

• Hans Bendiksen16. April 2010, 17:41

  Cannot open private blogs on blogger...
  
  And I cannot report this with Opera built in report webpage function.
  
  
  EDIT:
  Bloggger works OK now....

• Daniel Aleksandersen16. April 2010, 17:46

  For those of you seeing the PPC gmail crash: What exactly are you doing on gmail when it crashes? What gmail features are you using? Anything based in Flash? (Video, chat, bells and whistles, …)

• Kamalesh16. April 2010, 18:03

  Just for the heck of it, I upgraded this RC build over my old v10.1 install like most Opera users will.
  
  I'm noticing that this Google Maps page is a reliable crasher. It forces the Apple crash reporter but not the Opera reporter.
  
  Click on the map search result and try to double-click on the map to zoom down.
  (OSX v10.6.3)

• Wouter16. April 2010, 18:07

  Great, this works on PPC! And Ctrl-click in Google Maps finally works too. Great job, guys. Just the bookmark icons look weird: http://www.phys.uu.nl/~bergmann/opera.png
  
  OS X 10.4.11 PPC