More Ragnarök fixes (and then some) for Tunny

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• KilokilozaTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:06:49 PM

  #BlackTuesday here in South Africa, as our democracy is threatened Opera's new snapshot takes the edge off the day.
  
  Testing... YAY !
  
  -> Make the feed header size a bit smaller and customizable (Prefs > Fonts > Titles)

• Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:07:57 PM

  "Further Ragnarök fixes"
  
  Does it fix the issue "updating ARIA attributes on elements can reset the scroll position"?
  
  

• ØzikzakatakTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:08:01 PM

  first! testing
  

• Ruarí ØdegaardruarioTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:08:36 PM

  Just a minor clarification. Linux/FreeBSD users would likely only have noticed CORE-692 if they did not have Microsoft Core fonts installed. Just in case anyone was wondering why they didn't see the issue.

• minhoTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:09:40 PM

  Good work, thanks.

• GalnospokeTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:11:10 PM

  No, I am waiting for 12.x. All 11.6x makes BSOD on Youtube on my system. 11.5 and 12.x are stable and solid. My system, my data are much more important then new Opera.

• LucalucaviozziTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:11:38 PM

  performance in gmail with new interface getting worse and worse... almost unusable the address book with 600+ contacts...
  If not fixed i have to drop opera :|
  On IE there's no problem at all T_T
  
  Seven x64

• XombiemubaidrTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:13:11 PM

  
  
  But no Wahoo snapshot for long time
  Today i noticed blocklist for Dx9 and Dx10 in "Application data" folder , so i think it is already implemented in Opera 12 1155 but disabled , i need a new build

• SteveKongTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:15:06 PM

  [Mac OS X 10.6.8] Feed headlines are not longer ridiculous big - but now they are a bit too small. Why not display them at the same size as the mail subject?

• ViskiVmannTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:35:31 PM

  Agree on slow GMAIL with new interface perfomance.
  Seven x32, both 10.52 and 10.6 versions. Did not test 12 snapshots.

• cowwTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:35:57 PM

  "Keep an eye out for about any NSL (Never Stops Loading) issues compared to 11.5x, or pages that load differently or don't load at all when using Ragnarök."
  
  yeah! thanks thanks thanks

• krychu90Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:39:29 PM

  Page looks very strange on Opera 11.60 and Opera 12:
  http://perfektkursy.pl

• MichałEmdekTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:44:30 PM

  Finally smaller title in M2. :-)
  But other issues remain:
  - no favicons in address field dropdown;
  - KDE style issues (most annoying wrong menu bar background);
  - message zoom not preserved in M2.

• nimu_channimuchanTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:46:32 PM

  Thank you very much!!

• earth01Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:48:29 PM

  Various Featherweight skin fixes : Yeah ! Thanks for having read my post
  __________________________________________________
  There is a few "minor" UI bugs left :
  
  - The "Manage Bookmarks..." icon is blurred.
  - Search in the address field, then ctrl + T -> The icon next to "Web" in the address bar has disappeared.
  - Click on the "Web" icon in the address bar with a site without "?..." in its URL -> You can see some strange arguments about Opera
  __________________________________________________
  The new selection cursor is :
  1) not always shown over text,
  2) uggly
  And 3) in a word -> useless.
  
  EDIT : see next part here : http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/11/22/ragnarok#comment75347032
  EDIT BIS : the fix is here : http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/11/22/ragnarok?startidx=150#comment75408572
  
  Can I disable it ? If not, can I have an option in opera:config for example ?
  Thanks.
  
  PS: But Ragnarök is pretty cool

• Majlomajlos88Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:51:30 PM

  Usually, when Opera have been closed with Speed Dial opened on one of the tabs, after next start, tray icon is invisible.
  
  Debian Sid x64, KDE 4.6

• rseilerTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:51:54 PM

  Is Google Suggest (in search field and address bar) working again? It's currently broken in v12, and last I looked in v11.6, too.

• Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proTuesday, November 22, 2011 4:53:48 PM

  Originally posted by earth01:

  2) uggly
  And 3) in a word -> useless.

  
  Your opinion is useless. This is a requested feature from 2004 or maybe even earlier-
  
  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=69845
  
  All browsers use I-beam selection cursor - what's the big deal?

• Jithin Emmanueljithin1987Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:58:57 PM

  Font issue on Amazon product detail page - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001219LXS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p351_d0_g351_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0BKBBA3NEXXW4GC8H9FN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
  
  Contents are too small when compared to Firefox/Chrome.
  
  Also there is a high CPU usage on facebook.com

• earth01Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:01:45 PM

  Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

  All browsers use I-beam selection cursor - what's the big deal?

  I think I-beam should only be used for text which is editable.
  
  With this new selection cursor, you cannot make any difference between a HTML5 ContentEditable and text which is not.
  Go here for example : http://html5demos.com/contenteditable and tell me if you can.

• minhoTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:02:02 PM

  i cant subscribe to feed from this site yet.
  http://www.rockgratis.tk/
  
  Click on "Entradas RSS" on top, Opera only shows "Loading".
  
  win 7 x64

• MaximSailorMaxTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:02:27 PM

  This build has broken toolbar with O-button, when tabs position = bottom. Neighbors of O-button (in same panel) is invisible.
  Is it know problem?

• SerpherTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:06:52 PM

  NSL webpage is now GMail in Opera 12.

• AshusTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:07:05 PM

  Opera always caches js or css files when no caching is set in HTTP header. Even though I've set caching to Always check (both in options and in opera:config), no request is sent even after trying to refresh the page.
  
  Only 404 error is given back for favicon on .js file refresh in Dragonfly network request monitoring. Even if I check the Disable caching in Dragonfly, it still uses the cached page and never sends another request.
  
  
  Btw. nice changes in the mail client, but one regression: I start typing my answer in the quick reply, switch to other e-mail and back, and the message is gone. Earlier this wasn't happening.
  And I'd still like to see my auto-filled signature on top when replying to mail
  
  
  Win7 x64, using Opera since ver. 6

• MichałEmdekTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:07:33 PM

  Originally posted by earth01:

  Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

  All browsers use I-beam selection cursor - what's the big deal?

  I think I-beam should only be used for text which is editable. With this new selection cursor, you cannot make any difference between a HTML5 ContentEditable and text which is not. Go here for example : http://html5demos.com/contenteditable and tell me if you can.

  
  Very good point, even if all other do it wrong that doesn't mean that we should do the same, it won't magically become correct or logical. ;-)
  
  Moreover, I usually set cursor to normal so pages in other browsers look correct, like web pages not like editable documents.

• sabioTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:08:38 PM

  Same painfully slow new GMail here.
  Win7 x64
  
  I first thought it's because my Atom nettop is not powerful enough. But seems it's more global issue with Win7.
  On WinXP I do not have any GMail performance complaints.

• FavDjiXasTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:11:30 PM

  Is it so hard to release a new build of 12?
  

• KonstantinzxcatTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:14:01 PM

  StaySecureSD and IcoLog extensions looks different in 11.6. In both cases bages don't displayed: views number in IcoLog and product orded in StaySecureSD preferences.
  
  In SSSD the following code used:
  

  CSS: #bug:before {content:attr(data-num)}
  HTML: <input type="checkbox" id="bug" data-num="1" />

  
  Nothing displayed before checkbox in 11.6.

• Ruarí ØdegaardruarioTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:19:37 PM

  Originally posted by DjiXas:

  Is it so hard to release a new build of 12?

  No it isn't hard but 11.60 will release first and hence it must get the majority of testing if we want it to be stable any time soon. If we always gave you 12.00 builds many of you would not test 11.60 at all and we need your feedback on these builds first and foremost.

• Terry PhillipsterryphillipsTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:19:40 PM

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ now loads correctly. Thanks.

• Sk0lTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:26:54 PM

  Pay attention on the scroll bar.
  
  http://files.myopera.com/Sk0l/images/scroll%20bug.gif

• Manic MondayManicMondayTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:28:29 PM

  Still crashes on startup when trying to display crash log from a previous crash.

• minhoTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:30:20 PM

  Originally posted by terryphillips:

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ now loads correctly. Thanks.

  
  No problem here.
  
  Fedora 16 x32

• XombiemubaidrTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:31:12 PM

  Pleas update scroll bar looks to match new UI!

• PengePenge4Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:31:50 PM

  Featherweight regression: Open any mail view in two-lined message list where there is a lot of mail (more than the browser height) and scroll up slowly.
  
  OS: Win7 x64 with Aero Glass
  
  Anyone confirm?
  
  Second bug:
  1. Click any note entry on the Notes panel (
  2. Set the focus into the note entry
  3. The title of active note will be white on bright background, so almost invisible.
  
  Anyone confirm?
  
  

  Originally posted by mubaidr:

  Pleas update scroll bar looks to match new UI!

  
  +1 and the submit buttons and the checkbox (which are OS native )
  BTW I like the new Notes icons.

• eliotcougarTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:33:41 PM

  This Extension Never Stops Loading:
  https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/prognoz-pogody-ot-gismeteo/

• minhoTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:34:56 PM

  "Various Featherweight skin fixes"
  
  Fix skin on Fedora please.
  

• GreLITuesday, November 22, 2011 5:39:17 PM

  Originally posted by Sk0l:

  Pay attention on the scroll bar.
  
  http://files.myopera.com/Sk0l/images/scroll%20bug.gif

  If you still have mouse button pressed, it is usual OS behavior. All Windows programs have the same for me (including other browsers, even Safari).

• LucalucaviozziTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:42:16 PM

  Originally posted by sabio:

  Same painfully slow new GMail here.
  Win7 x64
  
  I first thought it's because my Atom nettop is not powerful enough. But seems it's more global issue with Win7.
  On WinXP I do not have any GMail performance complaints.

  I have slowness in Gmail with Xp too, but a bit less than Seven. Dunno if it's a computer matter cause my xp machine is powerful than seven one. Still no problem with other browsers in Gmail only with opera

• ncc50446Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:42:18 PM

  Originally posted by ruario:

  No it isn't hard but 11.60 will release first and hence it must get the majority of testing if we want it to be stable any time soon. If we always gave you 12.00 builds many of you would not test 11.60 at all and we need your feedback on these builds first and foremost.

  
  That makes sense, so thanks
  Though this is the longest beta for Opera in a while lol

• Tiago WakabayashiozoratsubasaTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:45:06 PM

  Originally posted by minho:

  i cant subscribe to feed from this site yet.http://www.rockgratis.tk/Click on "Entradas RSS" on top, Opera only shows "Loading".win 7 x64

  
  
  confirmed win 7 x32

• kamemanTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:45:43 PM

  the opera unite pages never stop loading as well... so opera unite is basically unusable... at least on the win 7 x64 systems i have access to...

• WolfpigTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:46:29 PM

  Originally posted by Penge4:

  Featherweight regression: Open any mail view in two-lined message list where there is a lot of mail (more than the browser height) and scroll up slowly.

  
  
  Do you meant this?
  
  http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2716/cv8j6oni_jpg.htm
  
  If not, this lines appear when you scroll up in the mail/feed panels ( only that row whit the i only saw it in the feed.....dont have that much mails atm ).
  Did not see that behavior while normal browsing ( only add this because i know that there was the same bug in older Opera releases ) yet.
  
  OS: Win XP SP3

• rseilerTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:47:27 PM

  Originally posted by Jithin Emmanuel:

  Font issue on Amazon product detail page - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001219LXS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p351_d0_g351_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0BKBBA3NEXXW4GC8H9FN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846Contents are too small when compared to Firefox/Chrome.

  
  That's been the case for a long time. Unfortunately, for years now there have been several reasons to spoof as another browser (FF, in my case) with Amazon. That's one of them. Another are the menus on the home page. Etc.

• Christophchristoph142Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:48:28 PM

  Originally posted by earth01:

  Originally posted by Swapnil99pro:

  All browsers use I-beam selection cursor - what's the big deal?

  I think I-beam should only be used for text which is editable. With this new selection cursor, you cannot make any difference between a HTML5 ContentEditable and text which is not. Go here for example : http://html5demos.com/contenteditable and tell me if you can.

  +1
  I was thinking the same. There is really NO reason to introduce it. If at all make it appear as soon as the mousebutton is held down and not on hovering!
  
  This build is the first in a while of 11.6 & 12, which makes ACID3-test load EVERY time reliably again (on Win8, not Linux!). Thanks for the fix

• blaximaTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:49:55 PM

  I know this doesn't have to do with the HTML parser but,
  
  The mail client has some weird skin and bar issues when upgrading.
  
  Spam and delete icons are randomly displayed using the tab_attention.png
  
  The view images bar is not displayed initially
  
  The tabs themselves on the pagebar are now too high and cropped off the window
  
  win xp sp3
  
  

• PengePenge4Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:52:05 PM

  The blue color on the absolutely new (even nor clicked) disappeared. It's bug or feature? I hope the former.

• AvolaTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:54:59 PM

  Wait, did you finally fix the skin so we don't have to edit skin.ini manually to remove the top tab gap?

• koimarkTuesday, November 22, 2011 5:55:07 PM

  Can anyone confirm new Gmail UI seems better when (not suprisingly) used with Mask As Firefox? Or is it just me?

• SpinalSpinal83Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:56:58 PM

  Ah, the NSL issues were/are caused by Opera itself? I just thought my internet was crappy today thanks for clearing that up