More Than Beta 2

July 16, 2009 · by manooh

Hi, I'm Manuela and I'm yet another first-time poster. And I'm a Desktop UI developer by the bye

I was mostly working on Opera Unite the last couple of months, so it's nice to see it being public now, getting real-life feedback on it. Currently, we are making an effort to polish the feature. We are ironing out some smaller UI glitches, and are making Opera Unite even more usable.

In this build, you'll find everything that Opera 10.00 beta 2 has, plus Opera Unite. Due to remaining issues with the Opera Unite infrastructure, it has been decided that Unite isn't quite ready for beta yet. But don't worry, we're working hard to fix it

The crash logger has been improved and now works on Mac.
Important: Mac users, if you have submitted crash logs using the crash logger in previous builds, please re-submit them. We changed the format of the log, and old logs cannot be parsed.

Enjoy the snapshot!

Highlights:

Jon Hicks has been working hard polishing the new skin
The error pages are now less red
Plus many many more fixes...

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

Download

PS: If you actually want the official Opera 10 Beta 2 without Unite click here

Changelog:

User Interface

Restyled Home Button
Further tweaking of opera:x, error and fraud pages look
New icons for setting status in a chat window
Fixed Bug DSK-256805 (Opera crashes when dragging separator to trash can)
Fixed Bug DSK-258230 (Padlock icon stretched on Security Information dialog): Full set of padlock icons for security dialog

Core

Fixed Bug CORE-16936 (Flickering and freezing - always scrolling to top (rtl.de))
Fixed Bug CORE-18854 (Going to a fraud URL with a username crashes Opera)
Fixed Bug CORE-22634 (Local cookies aren't listed in site pref cookie tab (caused problems for Unite))
Fixed Bug DSK-200545 (Cookie crash on exit)
Fixed Bug DSK-256433 (Gmail locks up when zoomed)
Fixed Bug DSK-258426 (Infinite iframe recursion when src=="javascript:void(0)", until memory runs out)

Mail

Fixed Bug CORE-22048 (Links opened from mail and newsfeeds stop loading when you focus another mail/feed entry)
Fixed Bug DSK-257739 (Importing mail fails when files are open)

Opera Unite

Changed "Home" To "My Opera Unite page"
Disabled advanced settings button if "disabled" is selected
Fixed Bug DSK-254303 (Installing Unite services from file (on disk), breaks service when deleting file)
Fixed Bug DSK-254960 (Changing service name in replacement dialog is not reflected in admin view): Setting service name during installation only applied in the gadget after re-start
Partial Fix of Bug DSK-257931 (Add visibility of Unite users on the local network): The local service discovery, UI part
Fixed Bug DSK-258328 (Logging out and logging in with a different username doesnt work): Storing username even though password isn't stored
Fixed Bug DSK-258449 ('Restart Opera Unite' option checked by default on start-up dialog even when Unite is not enabled)
Fixed Bug DSK-258470 (Global visibility options not saved when enabling Unite)

Mac

Improvements to panel appearance

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

Tamil16. July 2009, 08:07
_Grey_16. July 2009, 08:16
No known issues? Great
Xanashi16. July 2009, 08:22
Testing time!
greench16. July 2009, 08:24
Thanks
tareqf116. July 2009, 08:26
nice to see that Opera still in its beta phase
I think we need more feature and surprise in the final build.can wait for it.
Galileo16. July 2009, 08:41
Thank you for the build
L0sTS0uL16. July 2009, 08:48
1. The log in button is so diferent from others. Ugly!

2. When i drag one tab out of window and then drag this tab to the first window again. The second windows remains open.

3. The zoom drop down menu maybe should be moved more to the right, no?

4. The background colors of panels preferences and appearance maybe should be the same color of the background tabs (black).

5. Improve the "Find in Page" from the address bar. Select colors, next word button...

6. With the thumbnail in tabs disabled, the address bar hasn't padding top.

7. It's really cool if the opera can do this like windows 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TnWwxuPZFM

8. Voice doesn't work
The-Doc16. July 2009, 08:54
Great. Thanks !
davidtsunamy16. July 2009, 08:55
PERFECT
Morphdreamer16. July 2009, 09:06
Nice But redirection page still use old design.
solcroft16. July 2009, 09:22
For some reason I'm not seeing this blog post on the main Desktop Team blog page - I got here by entering the URL of this post directly into the address bar. Anyone have any idea why this is happening?
The-Doc16. July 2009, 09:29
@ solcroft : Look at the time of this post
Thursday, 16. July 2009, 11:23:00
zoquete16. July 2009, 09:41
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ takes me to http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2009/07/09/snapshot

it is 11:41am

What happens, please?
ZAHEK16. July 2009, 09:45
Thanks.
Interesting thing is that this post does not seen on main screen in http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog
HellbillyDeluxe16. July 2009, 09:50
Can anyone please make some screenshots for me (especially from the less red error pages)?

I can't download the new Build until evening because I'm at work right now.

Thanks a lot in advance!
zoquete16. July 2009, 09:51
HellbillyDeluxe, it looks horrible even without red. Only the headline is in read, it is gray.
exotek16. July 2009, 10:03

Linux

Grey backround in tray...
Please fix it:)
Robert9016. July 2009, 10:05
No translations this time? I can only find the English locales and not the Dutch one (or whatever language, the locales folder only contains the "en" folder)

And I don't think the new error pages are to bad, but the problem with the not appearing image (footer) remains.
zoquete16. July 2009, 10:17

error page screenshot

footer image loads very long, then it appears
solcroft16. July 2009, 10:19
Just a quick comment regarding the skin.

I'm not sure if this exists in previous builds, but I just noticed it a while ago. On the active tab, if you mouseover the Close button, the right border of the button appears awfully close to the right edge of the tab.

Might look a bit better of a few extra pixels were added in between.

[img]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7646/81936289.jpg
Micky16. July 2009, 10:20
a) On opera:* pages keyboard shortcut for Zoom is not working.

b) Compare error page in 9.6 and new one. New one have too dark background and its harder to read.

c) If you click link like this: link to #comment notice how Opera hangs on last couple of elements like 88/93. Consequence is that it doesn't take you to expected position in document.

d) Opera Chat: When you go offline, wrong status sign (Online) stays next to server name (forum topic).

e) Is 'Full screen' button icon still old style?

f) http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=gravitation - drop down menus like 'Calculate' is not shown correctly on hover (maybe it's same problem that was fixed on Youtube via browser.js?)

[System: Intel, WinXP_sp3, Opera10b_1643]
zoquete16. July 2009, 10:23
solcroft, the problem is that the background gray area of the button is too large. The same in addressbar.
zoquete16. July 2009, 10:27
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ works again after Hall announced it.
Robert9016. July 2009, 10:30
Originally posted by Micky:

c) If you click link like this: link to #comment notice how Opera hangs on last couple of elements like 88/93. Consequence is that it doesn't take you to expected position in document.

This is a general problem, it also occurs when you open a normal page without navigating to an anchor. For example, this blog page is for me still "loading" while I'm typing this (66/67), a refresh most of the time solves this problem, or, if you want to navigate to the anchor, just hit enter in the address bar.
koimark16. July 2009, 10:39
Originally posted by solcroft:

I'm not sure if this exists in previous builds, but I just noticed it a while ago. On the active tab, if you mouseover the Close button, the right border of the button appears awfully close to the right edge of the tab.

Might look a bit better of a few extra pixels were added in between.

I can confirm this behaviour. It seems that active tab couple pixels smaller than non-active tab but still close-button -element is in the same place.
Buchtic16. July 2009, 10:43
Why can't still remove Home button? DSK-257807
ruario16. July 2009, 10:48
Originally posted by exotek:

Linux

Grey backround in tray...

Yep see it on dark themes. The bug number is DSK-243508 if you want it.
DoubleT16. July 2009, 10:48
My personal showstoppers in Opera 10
- Why i can't combine the options 'Allow window with no tabs' and 'Start with Speed Dial'
- Unknown Content-Type will not open the Open/Save dialog (Citrix: application/x-ica)
- Can't open old web software which needs IE6 form opera, because there is no entry in the dialog (Win2k, IE6)
- No option to set the VPS directory to another location
- All favicons are in one directory. They should be separated in single sub-folder like bookmarked, personal, visited, temporary,...
zoquete16. July 2009, 10:49
I know, this error-page is not that important, but may something like his would look a way better:
TriMN16. July 2009, 10:50
The Opera crash reporter creates a second Opera icon on the OS X Dock. When letting it start Opera automatically again after the crash. The two icons remains on the Dock. I just played around and got THREE Opera icons on the dock
http://files.myopera.com/TriMN/files/Screen%20shot%202009-07-16%20at%2012.44.04.png
lesiem16. July 2009, 10:55
Why the error is not corrected again??? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by lesiem:

lesiem # 25. June 2009, 10:49

Hi All!
On site: http://www.torrentsmd.com/, Opera crashes when trying to save the torrent file!

1) Go to http://www.torrentsmd.com/
2) Choose any torrent and push it.
3) In the window that appears, choose: Download With => Opera => Open = Crash!!!

My login and password:
Login: Flatron89
Password: <removed>

http://www.torrentsmd.com/details.php?id=620393
Or something on your choice...
P.S.
Sorry for bad English
Tardio16. July 2009, 10:58
Can you fix the space problem when thumbnails in tabs are disabled ?

thumbnails in tabs disabled, buttons are too near from tabs:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3514/skinb.jpg

thumbnails in tabs enabled :
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3333/skinmorespace.jpg

Except that, is perfect, final release will be awesome.
Hewi16. July 2009, 11:05
Tardio, Too near? What? I think it's better in that way. Actually i would take some pixels away from below buttons aswell.
driftingfe3s16. July 2009, 11:08
Awww, I liked the red error page
rriiicchh16. July 2009, 11:10
Originally posted by TriMN:

The Opera crash reporter creates a second Opera icon on the OS X Dock. When letting it start Opera automatically again after the crash. The two icons remains on the Dock. I just played around and got THREE Opera icons on the dock
http://files.myopera.com/TriMN/files/Screen%20shot%202009-07-16%20at%2012.44.04.png

This happened to me on occasion but with this build seems to be behaving a little better.

Still no auto population of email address in the creash reporder

Still getting the crash on start up issue if you have Show start up screen and click a link in an external application

Still getting football365.com crashes. I did submit lots of crash reports with the previous build.

You would like us to resubmit the crash reports, How?

Also what about times when crash reporter doesn't kick in?
chrislaz16. July 2009, 11:11
Great build, thanks!

+1 for the new error page

I have a problem assigning a shortcut to toggle the Tab thumbnail view. I tried assigning "F5 shift" (and other combinations) to "Toggle Tab Thumbnails" with no luck. Am I doing something wrong?
hogehogehoge16. July 2009, 11:15

BUG : Font Auto Select doesn't function.
http://my.opera.com/japanese/forums/topic.dml?id=277259

BUG : Can't scroll in Print Preview mode
http://www.umechando.com/javascript/index.html

BUG : Site unusable
http://chatpad.jp/
mgillespie16. July 2009, 11:16
Getting some really nasty tab bugs. Tabs that take a VERY long time to close (if they ever close at all), tabs showing the wrong text for a very long time, new tabs not being created.

Anyone else seeing this?
tudsta16. July 2009, 11:21
I like the colour adjustments to Opera Turbo states.

UI inconsistency: Opera Turbo button does not have a green background when click (hold) down on it.
Tardio16. July 2009, 11:22
There is also an option to sort by name folders in bookmarks.
We can ONLY sort by name ALL folders and files, an option to sort by name only one folder by a right click on it and choose "sort by name", like in Firefox.
I need this option !
Svoboda16. July 2009, 11:32
When i type some search phrase in opera search field and resize the field, the phrase just disappears.
zoquete16. July 2009, 11:32
addressbar is slimmer in native skin and looks better so. Pleas make the same height of it in standard skin.

Tabbar-height looks huge in native skin.
benryves16. July 2009, 11:33
Looking great, but I'm still hoping for a reliable way to remove the menu drop-down button when menus are hidden. You can comment it out from [Pagebar Head.content] in ui\standard_toolbar.ini and then remove it by right-click, Reset toolbar to defaults, but it keeps adding itself at odd moments (lock/unlock workstation, drag tab, drag image on page, toggle menu).
xoed16. July 2009, 11:37
sexy flexi...
alexs16. July 2009, 11:39
Thanks for add de-at in dictionary, and please fix the background in Opera icon. (sidux)
zoquete16. July 2009, 11:45
statusbar height has been changed again, as result the turbo unit and link ikons look terrible.

make the statusbar the height as it was in 9.5
archive116. July 2009, 11:46
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/8/1/5/1/5/8/webimg/171479201_o.jpg
anyone getting a downloading file window when trying to open this jpg file
karnayna16. July 2009, 11:52
Yes. (XP SP2)
eini16. July 2009, 11:56
I still don't like the red color of visited bookmarks.
Please change it to something not so flashy.

@archive1: Me two. (XP, SP2)
benryves16. July 2009, 11:58
Originally posted by archive1:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/8/1/5/1/5/8/webimg/171479201_o.jpg
anyone getting a downloading file window when trying to open this jpg file
Yep, seems to be because it is being served as Content-Type: binary/octet-stream rather than image/jpeg or similar. Firefox and Safari also prompt to download; I guess IE makes a guess based on the extension.