New Mac Snapshot

March 12, 2010 · by mrwalker

Hi! I can introduce myself as a passionate Mac user for more than twenty years (!) and I recently joined the Mac team after helping out with 10.50 Final on Windows. As you understand it is all hands on deck now for the upcoming 10.5 Final for Mac.

Mac Highlights

Many Mac specific UI improvements
Several window painting glitches fixed
Copying of images to the clipboard is back

Hope you like it!

Known Issues

Still some dialog painting glitches
Two tabs are opened if opening new tab when there are no open windows

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest and greatest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Macintosh (Universal) / Macintosh (Intel-only)

Changelog

Mac

Make dialogs look more Mac-like
Command-T does not open new window when there are no open windows
Use appropriate fonts for Traditional Chinese
New windows look distorted for 1 sec before drawing
Mouse pointer should be hidden when keyboard is in use
Thumbnails have a yellow background
Text directional keyboard shortcuts no longer works
"Copy Image to Clipboard" doesn't work
Window chrome flickers after moving from inactive to active state
Long delay on triggering keyboard because of menu blinking

+ all the changes from the previous snapshot for Unix

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

Pitiphong Phongpattranont12. March 2010, 16:13
Holding right click and scrolling to scroll through tabs still doesn't work T^T
bachokocho12. March 2010, 16:19
Good luck to you and the mac team!
hcym12. March 2010, 16:25
No Macintosh
IKoke12. March 2010, 16:25
Tri M. Nguyen12. March 2010, 16:26
Mac version adopts the known issues from previous UNIX snapshot too hehe

Edit: the Manage Bookmarks window bug ( DSK-284678 ) still in this one
Olli12. March 2010, 16:28
Don't like the new tabstyle using preview-tabs on the left side. Somehow the text @ the bottom and the page-symbol are cut off. This looked much better before. Really liked the UI in the last version, was somehow a bit better than now. Please fix this! Do some work on the preview-tab-style. Reports on stability later...

First prob: When Opera crashes it is sometimes impossible to restart it without killing it's process in activity monitor. If I restart it it still crashes - this bug was already in the last snapshot.
Kamalesh12. March 2010, 16:29
Nice OSX UI tweaks...the Visual Tabs on-the-side has nice depth.

Side thumbnails border seems to have the favicons overhanging...lost a couple-pixel in the circumference, I think.

Still getting this ugly "upgrade Flash" prompt in YouTube...thx again, Google.
Pfelelep12. March 2010, 16:31
mac to go !
Wade12. March 2010, 16:56
Originally posted by kamalesh:

Still getting this ugly "upgrade Flash" prompt in YouTube...thx again, Google.

remove your cookies
Christopher Unger12. March 2010, 16:57
Rocker gestures yield contextual menus, as do gestures on the speed dial page. Also, is proper smooth scrolling in the works?

Still, great snapshot. My humblest thank you!
evilcokemachine12. March 2010, 16:58
can't wait to use this on the mac back at work next week !
ratherbeintobago12. March 2010, 16:58
Looks good, but doesn't seem to want to re-expand when minimised.
porneL12. March 2010, 17:04
"Mac-like" is not good enough on Mac. That platform requires serious OCD.

In HTTP auth you've got Submit/Cancel button in wrong order. Margins are all wrong. Icon is blurry. Background under sheet isn't blurred. Animation is choppy. Slide-down comes from different place than where slide-up goes to.

When will you support copying to find clipboard? (⌘E)
Tmelon12. March 2010, 17:06
I still have no fix... I'm on a new unibody Macbook and ever since the first Mac build Opera 10.5 doesn't work at all. Although Opera 10.10 works still. I have a high speed connection and Safari loads pages in about a second when it took Opera 10.5 almost a minute just to load Google. And to top that off it didn't even load the images... HELP.
iNabil12. March 2010, 17:09
thanks for this snapshot ! but y have some suggestions :

-can you update the skin of preferences look safari ? because it isn't very mac style (tabs general, search, advanced...)
-can you use Sparkle for check for update to look more native ?
-can you replace mail buttons to look more mac friendly like mail ?
-The search panel have a graphic bug
-Change skin of Speed Dial
-A progress bar like safari 3
-change skin of search bar

(sorry for my english, i'm french )
Teun12. March 2010, 17:12
Can someone post a screenshot?
Tmelon12. March 2010, 17:13
It should set Opera standard as the default theme. The Mac theme just doesn't look that great.
Dustin Wilson12. March 2010, 17:15
I'm at present testing this on PowerPC, and the application is absolutely unstable. There's no crash reporter or I would be sending loads of crashes to you guys. Is there any place I can email crashes to? The thing even crashes when sitting idle with just Speed Dial opened up. I've had upwards of 10 crashes since I've downloaded this build and probably close to 100 on the last one. Even though it crashes like an epileptic sheep I still open it up again for the sake of testing.

I'm unsure if this is also a problem on Intel, but if you switch the theme in Mac OS X 10.5 on PowerPC from Aqua to Graphite (or vice versa) Opera's window doesn't redraw with the new theme. For instance you have to hover over the scrollbars to have them change appearance.
Lucero Jr.12. March 2010, 17:17
CAN'T WAIT TO GET HOME AND TEST IT

yay!
windshear12. March 2010, 17:25
Maximize from the dock still doesn't work.
Also, am I the only one that thinks that opera needs to much time to load the first time it's launched?
FataL12. March 2010, 17:53
Same as in previous builds, Opera 10.5 erased auto session after manual update.
quark12. March 2010, 18:04
What about making page preview thumbnails on the dark/transparent quicklook-like background? It looks ugly now.

And bring back image resampling for thumbnail, please.
quark12. March 2010, 18:08
Originally posted by FataL:

Same as in previous builds, Opera 10.5 erased auto session after manual update.

It erazes the session on the first launch of new version.
Kamalesh12. March 2010, 18:12
Originally posted by Wade:

Originally posted by kamalesh:

Still getting this ugly "upgrade Flash" prompt in YouTube...thx again, Google.

remove your cookies

Thx, but seems to be a problem with the new YouTube UI in the last 24 hrs. Deleting cookies seems to fix it for the old YouTube UI, but when I switch to new again, same "Old Flash" warning...

Was working fine before, but broke yesterday, I think. Read somewhere that it broke for Safari users with Click-To-Flash also. I re-enabled On-Demand Plug-ins in this build, so that's not it.
Kamalesh12. March 2010, 18:15
Originally posted by drunkensurgeon:

What about making page preview thumbnails on the dark/transparent quicklook-like background?

Cool idea.
quark12. March 2010, 18:15
And it still...
Teun12. March 2010, 18:22
@quark, I should blur your email address...
Kamalesh12. March 2010, 18:27
If I right-click on a flash ad, it seems to break right-click until you restart Opera.

Originally posted by drunkensurgeon:

And it still...

How can you not use "thumbnails in tab cycle"...? Super handy, no?
d4rkn1ght12. March 2010, 18:53
bobwonderful12. March 2010, 19:01
Unfortunately, I'm still getting crashes often with the Opera on the Mac. "got signal SIGBUS at address 1242288C" is the error. Many times the browser is opened with about 5 or 6 tabs then closes when I'm not doing anything. The crashing has to be addressed as it cannot go public GA like that.
SteveKong12. March 2010, 19:03

Great, it's the first time Opera 10.50 matches almost Safari's performance at Peackeeper on my system. =)
Btw, is there a help page explaining BBCode available in this comment tool?
Didier Caizergues12. March 2010, 19:05
Tried it, and uninstalled almost immediately : still can't get the "Go to URL" dialogue when pressing F2, and still lagging when closing tabs with the Command-W combo.

I know these are minor annoyances, but they're important to me, because I like to navigate by keyboard, and I'm a mouse-impaired guy...

I'm going to give it another try after deleting my Preferences.plist file, just in case...

I want my one-key shortcuts baaaaaack!!!

Edit: reinstalled it with a clean preferences file, and no change...
SteveKong12. March 2010, 19:22
Just a small glitch: Downloading the German dictionary for spell checking takes over 2 minutes to start, showing no sign of activity during this waiting period.
Wade12. March 2010, 19:57
crashing really often, like 4 times in a hour...
Martin12. March 2010, 21:06
I try to change the keyboard shortcuts in opera from
(n ⌘ Shift = New private browser window) to
(n ⌘ Shift = New private page, 1) with the effect that nearly every shortcut changes or stop working.

Examples:
⌘W for close Tab changes to ^⌘W
my changed shortcut is not on n⌘Shift but on n^shift and so on

If I go back to standard all is OK again, can anybody confirm that?
Jan Doush12. March 2010, 21:08
Broken link in LatestSnapshot section for windows build
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/Opera_1050_3309_in.exe
Dave Kuhlman12. March 2010, 21:37
Thanks for 10.51. These new versions seem to be getting better and better. But ...

Flash still does not work on Linux. There is a blank area where the Flash element should appear. Is there a fix or work-around?

When I revert back to Opera 10.20, Flash works

I'm using:

Version: 10.51 Internal
Build: 6248
Platform: Linux
System: x86_64, 2.6.31-20-generic

- Dave
quark12. March 2010, 21:46
Originally posted by tweeny:

@quark, I should blur your email address...

Blah, everyone knows it
Dustin Wilson12. March 2010, 22:54

PorneL already pointed out the placement of the buttons in the dialog box, but I went further providing an image of what a dialog box should look like given Opera's present design scheme and what is typically found on the system. There's no necessity to make Opera's dialog box look identical to what Safari or other web browsers provide, but it does need to be organized similarly to avoid potential confusion from users.

Click on the image above to see a larger one.
Harlekin Mond12. March 2010, 23:50
I have a problem with JAVA :
- go to http://www.runescape.com/l=2/game.ws?j=1
- then open a new tab
==> JAVA is in front of the 2nd tab too.

[Mac Intel 10.6.2]
Daniele12. March 2010, 23:55
great job!
this snapshot feels very speedy and reactive! keep the good work!

Ps. i've still 2 bugs:
1- can't maximize the window clicking on opera icon in the dock
2- right click stops to work after some time
Also, i don't know if it's a bug but I can't block advertising when I'm private mode and i can't modify site preferences (I've also noticed this on windows)
10.6.2
Daniele13. March 2010, 00:12
i love the new way opera handles the file you wan to download! less windows asking you where you want to save and the possibility to put stuff directly in the download folder! Great!
samMD13. March 2010, 01:07
cant wait for final!
Daniele13. March 2010, 01:27
Please make rounded button in those bars occasionally displayed on top for password manager, find in page or block contents...they still have squared buttons
Al13. March 2010, 04:54
Stability on PowerPC has been much improved over the last build. There a still some minor crashes every now and then. Overall this build still isn't up to being a regular heavy lifter on more complex sites like Google Reader.
Maciej Tarmas13. March 2010, 05:53
Originally posted by Olli91:

When Opera crashes it is sometimes impossible to restart it without killing it's process in activity monitor. If I restart it it still crashes - this bug was already in the last snapshot.

Confirmed. This bug was also present in the previous build. Seems like there is something wrong with the bug reporter. You have to kill it first (right click->Quit on the dock icon is sufficient, no need to go to the Activity monitor), and then restart Opera with a new session, because any website that caused a crash will crash it again. fdfand youand you'll have to
Maciej Tarmas13. March 2010, 05:58
Oh, found another bug

See the comment above. When I was running out of space in the comment text box, Opera didn't let me scroll past what I already typed, thus the silly text at the end.

Originally posted by iNabil:

blah blah

Use Safari and Mail then? This is Opera, it *is* a different browser.

Sweet! Now the comment text box scrolls!

Originally posted by darklink88:

1- can't maximize the window clicking on opera icon in the dock

2- right click stops to work after some time

Both confirmed. You cannot restore the Opera window after minimizing to dock by clicking the Opera icon. The right click bug seems to be caused by Flash, though I have not been able to pinpoint the exact procedure to enable it.

OS X 10.6.2 Intel, Mac mini C2D 2 GHz, 2 GB of RAM
endless love13. March 2010, 07:10
Jeena Paradies13. March 2010, 10:15
When will it be possible to dobleclick on a word in Opera/Mac and then drag the mouse with pushed mouse button to mark word for word like you do in _all_ the other applications on the mac?
Martin Eberhardt13. March 2010, 11:50
Except for nuking all open tabs, it's fine...