New Opera 12 snapshot

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• ZimakMonday, April 23, 2012 11:39:14 AM

  OMG NEW ICON!
  testing!

• XombiemubaidrMonday, April 23, 2012 11:40:21 AM

  
  
  So all the known issues from previous snapshot have been fixed?

• Ayrton Nádgelayrtonnadgel92Monday, April 23, 2012 11:51:36 AM

  Thanks...

• toru vinntoruvinnMonday, April 23, 2012 11:52:42 AM

  This icon makes you look fatter, Opera.

• HPearcehpearceMonday, April 23, 2012 11:54:46 AM

  64 bit email retrieval crashes opera .... 32 bit ok

• MaximSailorMaxMonday, April 23, 2012 11:55:16 AM

  Originally posted by mubaidr:

  So all the known issues from previous snapshot have been fixed?

  
  No
  "Looking hostname" still here.
  "Broken toolbar redraw" still here.
  ...?

• pursanovdMonday, April 23, 2012 11:55:53 AM

  Originally posted by hpearce:

  64 bit email retrieval crashes opera

  
  Not confirmed. Seems ok here: Windows 7 x64, HWA off.

• Daniel AleksandersendanielMonday, April 23, 2012 12:01:31 PM

  Originally posted by toruvinn:

  This icon makes you look fatter, Opera.

  
  Don’t mess with a fat opera signer. Everyone knows that.

• konicMonday, April 23, 2012 12:02:03 PM

  Anything about bookmarks sub-folders which somehow become unopeable ?

• Владимир Назаровirdose7Monday, April 23, 2012 12:04:51 PM

  Why not just build the new releases?
  
  opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableHardwareAcceleration
  opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableWebGL

• XombiemubaidrMonday, April 23, 2012 12:08:30 PM

  Originally posted by daniel:

  Originally posted by toruvinn:

  This icon makes you look fatter, Opera.

  
  Don’t mess with a fat opera signer. Everyone knows that.

  

• mrdMonday, April 23, 2012 12:14:42 PM

  Hmm same issue as the last snapshot for me. Headline text on some sites (BBC being example) gets 'crushed'. The letters collapsing over themselves.
  
  For example: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17814785
  
  The headline part and also the "Stories" text in the box to the right are both collapsed.
  
  Win7x64 64bit version, GPU and WebGL on.
  
  Screenshot, hastily and badly done but shows the problem I'm seeing:
  
  

• Obese MauriceObeseMauriceMonday, April 23, 2012 12:24:54 PM

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6t5nrbhKg
  
  Very old bug. Default skin.
  
  Win7 x64, Opera 32-bit.

• DayderDayMonday, April 23, 2012 12:29:53 PM

  last couple of snapshots I've a black area at the botton of the page while scrolling down.
  If you have a large website and you make a long click at scrolling wheel at your mouse (so that you scroll with mouse) and you go to the botton of the page, so that the page "runs fast" to the botton, you can see the black area moving in the last third of the screen. I can't make a screenshot from it...
  Anyone confirm?
  
  Opera x64, Win7 x64 Enterprise, HWA off

• Andrew FrazierAndrewDFrazierMonday, April 23, 2012 12:30:52 PM

  As in the previous build mlb.com doesn't load.
  
  Added to that, nor do ebay.co.uk, gibson.com, harriers.co.uk, premierleague.com.
  
  bbc.co.uk will load, although it doesn't finish, but sub-pages don't load at all.
  
  twitter.com will load, but not properly: the username and passsword fields are disabled preventing you from logging in.
  
  In all cases, by 'not loading' I mean that the page is blank and the progress bar - whether in the address bar or popped up at the bottom - sits there showing "Elements x/x" (14/14 in the page I'm looking at) or "Completed request to ***".
  
  This is happening in both the 32- and 64-bit Windows builds (Windows 7) and on Mac OS X 10.6.8
  
  
  I've reported this as bug DSK-361989

• kikos90Monday, April 23, 2012 12:36:01 PM

  I prefer old icon. New is to shiny ...

• HiramapriorimeisterMonday, April 23, 2012 12:38:44 PM

  Originally posted by kikos90:

  I prefer old icon. New is to shiny ...

  
  Me too.

• koimarkMonday, April 23, 2012 12:40:37 PM

  Originally posted by mrd:

  Hmm same issue as the last snapshot for me. Headline text on some sites (BBC being example) gets 'crushed'. The letters collapsing over themselves.For example: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17814785The headline part and also the "Stories" text in the box to the right are both collapsed. Win7x64 64bit version, GPU and WebGL on.

  
  
  I can confirm this behaviour but I think this is known issue listed in previous build:
  DSK-357831 [Windows] [HWA] Negative letter spacing with DirectX on 64-bit builds

• rudentamrudenstamMonday, April 23, 2012 12:42:34 PM

  The problem with panning google maps (and images/links in general) is still there. Instead of panning you get dragging in the image.

• KlemenklemenchMonday, April 23, 2012 12:44:05 PM

  Crash on startup, only starts if i choose (after crash) Minimal restart, but when i close it and re-open opera, it crashes again.
  
  OPERA-CRASHLOG V1 desktop 12.00 1383 windows x64
  Opera.exe 1383 (1) caused exception C0000005 at address 00005965B709 (Base: 13FC90000)

• QuHnoMonday, April 23, 2012 12:48:13 PM

  HWA only rendering bug - elements get the border color as background color if border radius is set.
  
  http://quhno.internetstrahlen.de/BUGS/border-radius.html

• elnino79Monday, April 23, 2012 12:48:24 PM

  
  
  Win7 HP x64
  Intel(R) HD Graphics (DRV: 8.15.10.2202)
  
  

• Frederick Barnettfred8615Monday, April 23, 2012 12:48:47 PM

  Originally posted by hpearce:

  64 bit email retrieval crashes opera .... 32 bit ok

  
  Confirmed. POP e-mail still either crashes or just doesn't download.
  

• Andrew FrazierAndrewDFrazierMonday, April 23, 2012 12:50:23 PM

  Plugins still aren't being recognised. Although with this build and the previous one, the opera:plugins page says 'Detection in progress, please wait. This page will automatically refresh itself.'
  
  The page does refresh but it never discovers the plugins that are in the plugin folder listed in opera:about.
  
  Bug number: DSK-361706

• Andrew FrazierAndrewDFrazierMonday, April 23, 2012 12:59:36 PM

  The multiple instances of opera_plugin_wrapper.exe are becoming a pain, especially as the browser isn't recognising any plugins for me. It would be good if they closed down when the browser was closed.

• DayderDayMonday, April 23, 2012 12:59:39 PM

  google maps is still broken: I can't move the map because the tile wich is under the mouse is moved and opened as a single image
  
  Win7 x64 Enterprise, Opera x64

• ahoj1234Monday, April 23, 2012 12:59:52 PM

  I am glad to sea fix : CORE-45842 SSL crash..
  
  But I have little question.. Is possible to auto-login (via magic stick or what..) make possible for secured and unsecured same pages (for example https://www.facebook.com/ and http://www.facebook.com/).. If I have saved pass for "unsecured" version of page (http://www.facebook.com/) and try to login via https://www.facebook.com/ I have to type password and save it.. and now I have to same pass for page with and "without" security.. Or there is big problem..? only suggestion,maybe it is not a regression but..
  thx for response...
  W7 x64,this x64 build..

• tosbsasMonday, April 23, 2012 1:00:52 PM

  Mod edit: Please be specific and to the point when reporting problems. Be polite and constructive, and avoid foul language.
  When, please WHEN will you finally fix that virtual call bug - it makes 12 nearly unusable
  
  I am on win 7 32 bit and a fresh install - s****s big time
  
  Foul language - where?
  
  And I am talking about
  
  DSK-358448 Runtime error 6025 pure virtual function call at startup Opera Next for some users
  
  has been around for more than a month now and you guys are fixing addressbars and icons.
  
  I am with Opera since version 6 - even paid for the first versions - so come on

• ChrisSlamdexMonday, April 23, 2012 1:06:08 PM

  Originally posted by irdose7:

  Why not just build the new releases?

  What does this even mean? What are you talking about?

• GrazianskiMonday, April 23, 2012 1:07:31 PM

  Nice birthday present--it's mine today.
  
  Could have been even nicer, if opera:config#Network|EnableHostNameExpansion works in the address bar with pre- and given postfixes from opera:config#Network|HostNameExpansionPostfix not that stupid google search. Because, what is the search field in the right for, then???
  
  I neither want the /- nor the Strg+Return workaround, because i liked the 10.10-version behavior.
  
  Many greets from Bremen, Germany

• PrEziMonday, April 23, 2012 1:07:54 PM

  Can any1 confirm this :
  http://www.joemonster.org
  On older 12 builds and on 11.6x - the titles in the middle frame display all correctly (the big RED titles). On any newer 12.00 build these are all messed up (like the title overlays itself a few times).

• ahoj1234Monday, April 23, 2012 1:08:58 PM

  Originally posted by fred8615:

  Originally posted by hpearce:

  64 bit email retrieval crashes opera .... 32 bit ok

  Confirmed. POP e-mail still either crashes or just doesn't download.

  
  Can not confirm..
  W7 x64 and x64 build..with last 2 or 3 builds it crash without download.. but now it is ok.. Maybe crash on startup with POP email.. I dont know but on start up Opera is still crashing without reports maybe because of POP email setting..
  
  
  edit1: It really seems to crash because of POP mail setting and not only on startup but crash are not always as in previous 2-3builds...

• PrEziMonday, April 23, 2012 1:11:50 PM

  Also another one that I kindly ask to test with any newer 12.xx version-
  of forums-xda.developers enter a quite huge topic, and refresh - takes all CPU power, slows opera to a crawl, sometimes even preventing to switch/change tabs. After page is refreshed - everything is back to normal (responsiveness and CPU usage). Win7 x64, Opera 12.00 b1383 x64.
  Latest beta of Flash (if that matters).
  Direct link to test as example :
  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510940&page=352
  

• SteveKongMonday, April 23, 2012 1:15:27 PM

  [Mac OS X 10.7.3] Unfortunately, this build still lets OSX's firewall ask on every start whether to allow incoming connections for Opera Next or not. As far as I remember, this started with the introduction of the 64 Bit builds.
  Does anyone else experience that issue?

• Руслан БровкинrbrovkinMonday, April 23, 2012 1:16:12 PM

  OpenGL interface bug is here: http://i.imgur.com/xZ5Qa.png http://i.imgur.com/7ihAY.png

• stefano de rosavercinstexMonday, April 23, 2012 1:16:40 PM

  Is it normal the opera is completely blurred? both website and GUI...
  
  See screenshots:
  
  
  
  
  
  very boring problem...
  
  My configuration:
  win 7 x64
  nvidia 230 gt
  
  

• youngjrMonday, April 23, 2012 1:16:46 PM

  Thank you for a new build.
  
  <Win 7 x64 / HWA ON (clean install)>
  
  <GPU information>
  Graphics backend: Direct3D 10.1 (Level 10.0)
  Vendor id: 0x1002
  Device id: 0x9610
  Driver version" 8.17.10.1119
  
  1. Some color is shown improperly.
  
  For example, at opera desktopteam blog page (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/)
  
  HWA off:
  http://files.myopera.com/youngjr/files/opera_blog_12_HWA_OFF.JPG
  HWA on:
  http://files.myopera.com/youngjr/files/opera_blog_12_HWA_ON.JPG
  
  2. Some Korean fonts are overlapped.
  
  For example, at Naver (Korean portal) http://www.naver.com
  
  HWA off:
  http://files.myopera.com/youngjr/files/naver_12_HWA_OFF.JPG
  HWA on:
  http://files.myopera.com/youngjr/files/naver_12_HWA_ON.JPG
  
  

• MichałEmdekMonday, April 23, 2012 1:18:18 PM

  That was quick. ;-)
  
  Still seeing tabs list appended to Tools / Advanced menu, Kubuntu 32 bit.

• Don-PromilloMonday, April 23, 2012 1:39:31 PM

  Opera still crashes when hardware acceleration is enabled.
  
  Win 7 32-bit Intel GMA 950
  

• MaximSailorMaxMonday, April 23, 2012 1:40:19 PM

  Originally posted by Emdek:

  Still seeing tabs list appended to Tools / Advanced menu, Kubuntu 32 bit.

  
  +1 WinXP 32 bit

• flmMonday, April 23, 2012 2:05:53 PM

  Few problems bothering me right out-of-the-box:
  1). ghost buttons under standard window controls!!!!
  2). panel toggle has artefacts (redrawing problems?) on it
  3). right click on bookmarks dropdown menu no longer works!!!
  4). for some reason sometimes opera just not working with net - not loading any webpages etc... i don't have firewall, antivirus, proxy, router etc. so there is no reason for this behavior apart from some severe bugs in opera...
  5). not to mention some wierd crashes, slowdowns, ui quirks...
  
  New icon is good, hw accel., new technologies etc. are good, but if opera looks likes garbage or/and not works, its not a good idea to release it for wide audience...

• alharawiMonday, April 23, 2012 2:11:24 PM

  Lost my config for dictionaries
  OSX 10.6.8 / HWA OpenGL

• D1sasterp1eceMonday, April 23, 2012 2:11:45 PM

  I have some interface problems with this and the previous snapshot. Installed it over my old Opera 12, but it's the same thing on a clean install. HWA and WebGL are disabled, this is XP Pro SP3.
  
  
  
  
  
  Panel edge toggle appears black before hovering it for the first time, then, after hovering it and moving the cursor elsewhere, it retains its hover state.
  
  Go to page dialogue has some issues - even before typing something, the 'Enter address or search' text appears on top of the icon, same goes for after typing something in.

• seriousMonday, April 23, 2012 2:40:09 PM

  meh, don't like the new icon ... reminds me of the really old one you had before the current which was also really bad.

• Johann AntonioJohann-7Monday, April 23, 2012 2:43:56 PM

  Originally posted by kikos90:

  I prefer old icon. New is to shiny ...

  
  +1000

• labourerMonday, April 23, 2012 2:46:05 PM

  Regression compared to ver. 11.62:
  The European Union's homepage renders erroneously - the tool for adjusting text size superimposes on other text.
  http://europa.eu/index_en.htm
  
  Windows 32 bit version on 32 bit Vista, Intel GMA X3100

• ThangarajthangarajjMonday, April 23, 2012 2:50:26 PM

  Originally posted by PrEzi:

  Also another one that I kindly ask to test with any newer 12.xx version-
  of forums-xda.developers enter a quite huge topic, and refresh - takes all CPU power, slows opera to a crawl, sometimes even preventing to switch/change tabs. After page is refreshed - everything is back to normal (responsiveness and CPU usage). Win7 x64, Opera 12.00 b1383 x64.
  Latest beta of Flash (if that matters).
  Direct link to test as example :
  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510940&page=352
  

  Cannot confirm. As usual scrolling is bad, but page loads & opera doesn't have any high cpu usage. Maybe clear cache once?

• DebbsishipaMonday, April 23, 2012 2:57:13 PM

  it's awesome fast but the mail stuck in loading process just right now when i opened operamail,,,

• ThangarajthangarajjMonday, April 23, 2012 2:59:08 PM

  Bug at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
  Just load the page, the flash stuff loads initially, then basically disappears.
  win7, opera x64, HW on
  Graphics hardware and driver details
  Vendor id 0x8086
  Device id 0x0102
  Driver version 8.15.10.2696

• Jan SegreJanLukazMonday, April 23, 2012 3:09:35 PM

  Originally posted by serious:

  meh, don't like the new icon ... reminds me of the really old one you had before the current which was also really bad.

  
  I really like the new icon... reminds me of the old icon, when Opera was the only good browser with tabs.