New Opera Labs release, with getUserMedia and Opera Reader

October 19, 2011 · by Ruarí Ødegaard

To find out more head over to Opera Labs. If you want to give us feedback, please do so below.

Edit: Could those who are testing camera support let us know if it works for you. If it doesn't work, please let us know the name of the manufacturer of your webcam and its model/version. We also need to know which Operating System you are running.

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Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

Satan D. LucifersupertrolWednesday, October 19, 2011 9:54:55 AM
im using it right now

in html5test.com

it scored a whooping 351+9 bonus points in my system(websockets enabled)

webgl+HWA disabled for that build

even beats the score of the current chrome build there

will opera 12 score a perfect 450 points?
Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proWednesday, October 19, 2011 9:57:08 AM
Hope it is ready soon so that it can be integrated into Opera 12.00. Though I feel that getUserMedia support is coming soon to snapshots-

Opera 12 Alpha (current build) - Opera 12.00 Build 1105
This Labs build - Opera 12.00 Build 1113.

Waiting for next snapshot with HWA fixes.

Originally posted by supertrol:

it scored a whooping 351+9 bonus points in my system(websockets enabled)

Ofcouse it will.

Opera 12 Alpha without HWA and WebGL - 321 points
This Labs build -

321 points + 20 points on Local Multimedia category test + Enabling WebSockets

321 points + 20 points + 10 points = 351 points.
kunFooWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:15:20 AM
How can I select text in the displayed page? (Not all text with Ctrl+A, just some a lines)

Thanks!
AercyrugasWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:23:26 AM
Originally posted by kunFoo:

How can I select text in the displayed page? (Not all text with Ctrl+A, just some a lines)

Thanks!
Two opera:config preferences are turned on by default: “Scroll is Pan” and “Smooth Scrolling”. As a consequence of this, text selection is broken. This will be fixed soon. from labs
earth01Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:26:13 AM
Amazing
Opera reinvents the web, again !

Fantastic concept
kunFooWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:33:19 AM
Originally posted by rugas:

Originally posted by kunFoo:
How can I select text in the displayed page? (Not all text with Ctrl+A, just some a lines)

Thanks!
Two opera:config preferences are turned on by default: “Scroll is Pan” and “Smooth Scrolling”. As a consequence of this, text selection is broken. This will be fixed soon. from labs

Thanks Aercy (:
scaRFhoggWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:34:08 AM
The download link for the Android build seems to be broken
Ruarí ØdegaardruarioWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:41:06 AM
Originally posted by scaRFhogg:

The download link for the Android build seems to be broken
works for me
Obese MauriceObeseMauriceWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:52:23 AM
Excellent, will it be included in 12.00 release?
scaRFhoggWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:55:51 AM
Originally posted by ruario:

Originally posted by scaRFhogg:
The download link for the Android build seems to be broken
works for me

Hmm, just tried the download again with Opera mobile and it worked. The webkit browser always showed a 404 page.

Thanks for looking into it anyway!

Off to testing ...
techlawsamWednesday, October 19, 2011 10:56:57 AM
awesome a opera labs for opera mobile !!
sirnh1Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:57:25 AM
Originally posted by ruario:

works for me

Doesn't work for me either.

When I click on it, I'm taken to: http://get.geo.opera.com/pub/.custom/campaign/labs/reader/Opera_Mobile_11.5_Android_reader.apk

But that page just shows:
Not Found
The requested URL /pub/.custom/campaign/labs/reader/Opera_Mobile_11.5_Android_reader.apk was not found on this server.

edit: screenshot
Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:03:22 AM
Originally posted by ObeseMaurice:

Excellent, will it be included in 12.00 release?

Most probably (until any major issue occurs), yes
Danieledarklink88Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:10:40 AM
that's incredible guys! Great work! If you will add magic mouse/trackpad support on mac for turning the pages in Opera Reader it would be awesome!
ersiWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:25:20 AM
The newest Safari has something similar, also called Reader. Sometimes works, sometimes not.
Kristian KardenericroseWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:36:37 AM
For some reason Opera Reader doesn't work for me at all. Using Win Vista Home Premium. What might be the reason?
tombjoWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:37:14 AM
Sweet!

But how about reverse direction of pagination? This would be needed for certain Asian documents and publications such as manga that is usually read from "the back" compared to most western books. Having right/down as the forward direction is not general enough.
Michael A. Puls IIburnout426Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:38:01 AM
Cool. My webcam works. But, if I refresh the page or close the tab and open the page again, it doesn't work. I have to restart Opera.

For the reader stuff, I noticed that some of the examples work with gestures while the others require the arrow keys.

Built-in webcam on Lenovo T520. Driver says Ricoh 1.1.0.1141
Ruarí ØdegaardruarioWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:44:20 AM
I just updated the blog post above. For those of you that might have missed it I'll repeat here,
Originally posted by ruario:

Could those who are testing camera support let us know if it works for you. If it doesn't work, please let us know the name of the manufacturer of your webcam and its model/version. We also need to know which Operating System you are running.
AlternatiwealternatiweWednesday, October 19, 2011 11:51:07 AM
I like it. Great! I'm waiting for the easy on-off of the pan scroll feature and looking forward how to handle highlight and copy text.
Camera works well here under w7 x86 with my t410 thinkpad. I would appreciate it if Opera would ask for permission to use my camera (as geolocation does for example). It's scary a little bit.
Lương Thế Minh QuangquangltmWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:05:57 PM
http://labs.opera.com/img/news/2011/html5-exploding-camera.jpg
Coool
Aleksander AasAleksanderWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:34:40 PM
Version: 12.00 Labs
Build: 1113
Platform: Mac OS X
System: 10.7.2

Works perfectly, except I'm unable to select text as it scrolls the page instead of selecting it.

Originally posted by alternatiwe:

Camera works well here under w7 x86 with my t410 thinkpad. I would appreciate it if Opera would ask for permission to use my camera (as geolocation does for example). It's scary a little bit.

It will, but it's not implemented for the labs build
Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:37:52 PM
Originally posted by Aleksander:

It will, but it's not implemented for the labs build

Is it related to this known issue:
The device API does not have a user interface yet. This will be added soon.
eliotcougarWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:44:05 PM
Cool...
Webcam access works... Windows7 x64 + Logitech C510 HD Webcam...

Paginated media works almost fine... Dragging a page is weird if you drag an image... It drags an image first, but after you release mouse button it is dragging the page until you press and release button again...
And there are no indicators on the sides of the screen pointing the directions where you can drag (flip) the page...
MaximSailorMaxWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:50:44 PM
With Smooth Scrolling = off new scroller is awful. I think new page scroller should not be connected to this preference... Animation require in any case.
John BarnettJohn164Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:53:41 PM
will someone post a web site that works please. Not sure if page turn works with me.
MaximSailorMaxWednesday, October 19, 2011 12:55:31 PM
Do you mean this: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2011/reader/index.html ?
Ruarí ØdegaardruarioWednesday, October 19, 2011 1:07:12 PM
Originally posted by SailorMax:

Do you mean this: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2011/reader/index.html ?
yes
MaximSailorMaxWednesday, October 19, 2011 1:13:06 PM
If anyone don't know how to scroll without "Scroll is Pan" -- Ctrl + Alt + Left mouse button + mouse move
(not found in articles)
MaximSailorMaxWednesday, October 19, 2011 1:23:10 PM
2developers: will it possible turn on not page scrolling, but columns scrolling?
John BarnettJohn164Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:25:00 PM
Originally posted by SailorMax:

Do you mean this: http://people.opera.com/howcome/2011/reader/index.html ?

Thanks I have it working now. Guess it will be along time before all web pages work like this!
MaximSailorMaxWednesday, October 19, 2011 1:45:54 PM
Originally posted by John164:

Guess it will be along time before all web pages work like this

Based on solution - 3 lines of code, after release Opera 12 we will see extension for unsupported pages
ChirpieWednesday, October 19, 2011 1:50:35 PM
Originally posted by ersi:

The newest Safari has something similar, also called Reader.
No, Safari's Reader is not even remotely similar to this. Safari Reader reformat an existing page using a program called "Readibility" while Opera's reader adds new CSS for webmasters to use on their pages.
Shankar Narayanan SGSsgsshankarWednesday, October 19, 2011 2:48:43 PM
Saw the Demo by Shwetank Dixit...its Amazing
Manoj ChandrasekharanmachsWednesday, October 19, 2011 3:06:27 PM
Originally posted by earth01:

Amazing
Opera reinvents the web, again !

Fantastic concept

Just love the reader, its just like reading an actual book. Nicely done guys.

Unfortunately can't say the same for webcam though. Windows freezes everytime I try to load either the demo page or the Trolls page on the reader. The only way then is to force reboot. Please take a look into it.

I am using a HP pavilion laptop with HP TrueVision HD integrated webcam, running windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OS with intel core i3 2310M processor.

Device manager shows webcam drivers are up to date (Driver version: 6.1.7601.17514, Date: 21-6-2006, Provider: Microsoft). In case you require model no. HP Pavilion DV4-3015TX.

Hope the info is sufficient.
Looking forward to be able to test the webcam support soon.
Thanks.!
ChirpieWednesday, October 19, 2011 3:11:09 PM
Originally posted by machs:

Unfortunately can't say the same for webcam though. Windows freezes everytime I try to load either the demo page or the Trolls page on the reader. The only way then is to force reboot.
It's a labs build. It's supposed to be buggy.
TomQyngaliWednesday, October 19, 2011 3:24:41 PM
Chirpie, he's reporting a problem. If he didn't give all the details the report would be pretty much useless.
Ben BarberndluthierWednesday, October 19, 2011 4:00:26 PM
Hey, I really like the Reader paging!

I really really wish that the 'swipe between pages' gestures in OSX Lion worked for paged navigation. I'm really surprised that they don't, actually.

Almost as impressive as the paged navigation, though, is seeing how well it handles columns! "Responsive" design consists of:
```
    @media -o-paged {
      html {
        columns: 20em;
      }
    }
```
No matter the zoom level or window size, the layout adapts really really well. It's really beautiful, actually.
Erik HauboldAltariusWednesday, October 19, 2011 4:18:56 PM
camera works fine for me (hp envy 14-1010, suse 12.1 64bit)

opera reader looks promising, going to dig in some code now
Ben BarberndluthierWednesday, October 19, 2011 4:25:00 PM
The camera demo at http://people.opera.com/danield/html5/explode/ works great on the camera on my MacBook Pro, running Mac OSX Lion, 10.7.2. However, it doesn't trigger the camera on my external monitor (Apple cinema display), even when the laptop lid is closed.
Kyle BakerkyleabakerWednesday, October 19, 2011 4:45:18 PM
getUserMedia works for me:

System: Ubuntu 11.10 x86_64, 3.0.0-12-generic
Opera: Opera 12.00.1113 Labs
Camera: Microsoft LifeCam vx-1000
StevesgunhouseWednesday, October 19, 2011 4:59:55 PM
Paging on the desktop need work ...

1) Some "page flip" animation would be nice.
2) If your mouse has some horizontal scroll mechanism (tilt wheel or similar), scrolling right defaults to scrolling all the way to the end, while left always goes to the start.
Cutting SpoonhellsporkWednesday, October 19, 2011 5:20:07 PM
All features working really well, two devices.
ASUS 1005HA with builtin "USB2.0 UVC 1.3M Webcam"
Kyocera Echo with Android 2.3.4 (long press and text selection still works)
EmanueleEngeliumWednesday, October 19, 2011 5:32:31 PM
I tested only the reader stuff but in the demo it works well only with arrow keys, while mouse seems to work with some problems (several times it doesn't activate the "scroll")

And, is it planned support for mouse wheel too?
artmilWednesday, October 19, 2011 5:43:48 PM
"Opera Reader" is a cool future but i don't like the getUserMedia... i'm afraid that it could be easy exploited...
David KarapetyanDavKar1Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:46:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qrMs8.jpg
Genius Eye 312S, Windows 7 32 bit SP1
Constantine Vesnac69Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:50:30 PM
Are there any "poor man's skype" online demos already ?

Originally posted by earth01:

Opera reinvents the web, again !

Just this time - its for real

p.s.: Reader should get native PDF + DJVU support and then Opera will dominate tablets
WildEnteWednesday, October 19, 2011 6:24:35 PM
with the labs build, I tried twice to load one of the camera demos, and both times I got a bluescreen of death. System: Dell XPS M1530 laptop with Vista on it. Using the Dell webcam center the camera works fine, so I would guess the crash is related to the way Opera accesses the device...

I can't figure out exactly what the camera model is, it's apparently using a driver software from Creative version 1.4.1.1011 from 10/11/2007
cyberdude mminicyberdudeWednesday, October 19, 2011 6:28:38 PM
The cam is working on my laptop(Lenovo G550)
windows 7 x64.
I found out "working of my cam" on the troll example....its funny....

it didn't ask my permission to take start the video ... If every website implements this without asking permission, then there might be a problem...offcourse this is a labs build and i hope there will be some way to ask permssion before activating my cam.
Cutting SpoonhellsporkWednesday, October 19, 2011 7:00:14 PM
Known Issue: "No User Interface implemented".

It will eventually have special permission dialogs just like Geolocation.

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Published in	Desktop Team blog
Date	October 19, 2011
Author	Ruarí Ødegaard
Tags	getUserMedia, Opera Reader
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