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February 1, 2012 · by Dustin Wilson

Ook! I'm Dustin Wilson, and I'm a user experience designer for desktop here at Opera. You've probably seen my lurking around here before. I've been with the My Opera community since 2003, and I've been quite a vocal supporter of Opera. I just started working here on the 11th of January, and shortly thereafter I flew out to Oslo to meet and work with everyone. It's been extremely cold and dark, but great. I'm working with a great team, and we have a lot of awesome stuff planned. Fortunately for you all there are some nice design changes coming up! Stay tuned!

Why am I writing this post, then? They just needed a scapegoat person to write an intro to this Opera Next snapshot, and I was readily available and willing to do so. I'm perfectly sure this build contains many worthwhile changes! Have fun testing the build. bigsmile

Known issues
  • Crash on start up with saved sessions
  • Mail header layout is broken
  • Mac: Some font rendering issues, and crashes with Web fonts

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog

Desktop
  • All of the remaining fixes from 11.61 Final
  • Various crashes resolved
  • DSK-256608 Spell-checker incorrectly shown as enabled for single-line input fields
  • DSK-340816 Address field focus lost on restart when installing extensions with a toolbar button
  • DSK-355547 Dragging and dropping a tab too high can result in the marker being left behind and a new window created
  • DSK-352185 Mail grouping dialog checkbox can't be clicked when using two screens
  • DSK-340582 Buttons in Content Blocker Toolbar aren't visible when browser window width is too small
  • DSK-319646 Can't easily save/open files downloaded in tiny pop-up windows
  • DSK-354862 Active dialogs are sent to foreground of all applications
  • DSK-337684 Quick find in Bookmarks Manager doesn't work when a folder is selected in the left column before performing a search
  • DSK-332303 Don't show login dialogs when fetching favicons on upgrade

Mac
  • DSK-353761 File uploads and form submissions fail with a timeout
  • DSK-341687 Crash when re-closing already closed windows
  • DSK-346719 Crash when zooming with datalist suggestion box open
  • DSK-349576 Context menus for Opera Unite, Turbo, and Link services shown on primary screen if windows positioned at the bottom of secondary screen

Windows
  • DSK-265591 Opera's task tray icon is not recreated when Windows explorer is restarted
  • DSK-353888 Mouse cursor is not reset to default after right-clicking

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

  • netmainWednesday, February 1, 2012 3:57:35 PM

    first ? yay

    hey, congrats for the job, and I personally wish you good luck wink

    thanks team for the new snapshot... testing ...
    sherlock
  • Patrick O'Reillypaddy2kWednesday, February 1, 2012 3:59:40 PM

    Congrats on the new job!
  • FhuryWednesday, February 1, 2012 3:59:55 PM

    What is this?? Next or 11.61+ ??
  • netmainWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:00:29 PM

    opera 11.61 was released, no more 11.61 snapshots , only opera 12 wahoo (next) wink
  • alekksanderWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:08:05 PM

    sooner than i expected. thanks!
  • GregorWWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:11:20 PM

    Panel toggle at edge of window is still broken - clicking on it has no effect.
  • EricJHWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:14:21 PM

    Congratulations with your new job at Opera and welcome.coffee sherlock

    Thanks for the new snapshot. It looks like things are starting to come to their usual speeds again..... up
  • marbrossWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:15:50 PM

    Nice to meet you Dustin and welcome to team smile
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:17:15 PM

    Nice for getting a job at Opera, congratulations and best wishes to you! up

    As for the snapshot, a first impression is that the panel edge toggle still does not work and , at least for me, this is a big enough usability issue.

    First things first, but I'll be testing this snapshot further for UserJS issues that's been bugging me in previous builds.
  • Andrea4ndreaWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:17:36 PM

    The panel toggle still doesn't work!

    Is it possible to have it totally working back?
  • Petter Nilsenmitchman2Wednesday, February 1, 2012 4:19:41 PM

    Originally posted by GregorW:

    Panel toggle at edge of window is still broken - clicking on it has no effect.



    This has been fixed on a task no yet ready for a public build.
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:22:44 PM

    Originally posted by mitchman2:

    Originally posted by GregorW:

    Panel toggle at edge of window is still broken - clicking on it has no effect.

    This has been fixed on a task no yet ready for a public build.


    Thanks for the clarification. up
    So can we expect it within the next two or three builds? bigsmile
  • Daniel AleksandersendanielWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:24:48 PM

    Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

    So can we expect it within the next two or three builds?


    As always: no promises. Could be months or tomorrow. (Which is why we don’t make any promises.) It is part of a larger task which will not be released until it’s ready.
  • em-a-ilWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:25:31 PM

    I am still waiting for the autoupdate. I hope that it will be installable fast. My browser still says that I use the newest version.
  • delarge42Wednesday, February 1, 2012 4:30:16 PM

    "DSK-340816 Address field focus lost on restart when installing extensions with a toolbar button"

    Holy c..., finally!

    Edit: damn, it's not what I thought...still losing focus after starting Opera sad
  • nimu_channimuchanWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:30:27 PM

    Thank you!!up
  • Christophchristoph142Wednesday, February 1, 2012 4:34:50 PM

    DSK-353888 Mouse cursor is not reset to default after right-clicking


    Yay, thanks, working nicely again smile
    Testing...
  • Daniel AleksandersendanielWednesday, February 1, 2012 4:57:13 PM

    Originally posted by eidur:

    This build seems to be having some kind of UI text rendering issues.


    It is in the known issues for this snapshot release.
  • King CrimsonWednesday, February 1, 2012 5:04:30 PM

    Thanks! up
  • MichałEmdekWednesday, February 1, 2012 5:47:38 PM

    all nice, but still no favicons in address bar...
    Can we at least get semi official answer if this is temporary regression or intended "feature"? ;-)
  • fmbbWednesday, February 1, 2012 5:51:29 PM

    DSK-340816 Address field focus lost on restart when installing extensions with a toolbar button

    not fixed
  • DeithriandeithrianWednesday, February 1, 2012 5:57:43 PM

    Woow! Amazing job you guys smile
    It took me only two minutes to type in my username and pass at the login screen.
    And Google+ loads in only 55 seconds!
    A new tab gets created for only 5 seconds and switching between tabs takes 3 seconds!
    Great job on the CPU usage too! Now Opera uses only 98% of my dual core!
    I'm just amazed how do you guys do it smile
    Oh and scrolling! Scrolling is a breeze now! Only half a minute to reach the bottom of the comments here! Great job!
    Congrats!
  • JackWagonWednesday, February 1, 2012 6:27:09 PM

    "DSK-256608 Spell-checker incorrectly shown as enabled for single-line input fields"

    I love you! Thanks. It's nice to know you are listening.

    Hardware acceleration is rather sluggish on this build and the prior one as well. The UI is dramatically faster with HW acceleration disabled.

    Windows 7 x64, Nvidia GT430, latest stable drivers (also tried the lastest Nvidia beta drivers too.)

  • Patrick H. LaukepatrickhlaukeWednesday, February 1, 2012 6:31:52 PM

    You didn't fix all my edge cases and pet issues yet!

    Sorry, just channeling some standard comment for snapshots, just to get you used to them. Nice one fella smile
  • kapsiWednesday, February 1, 2012 6:37:33 PM

    This snapshot made all my extensions stop working.

    edit: Cancel that, I just started Opera with Javascript turned off. Still, extensions should work after disabling the Javascript...
  • ouzowtfouzoWTFWednesday, February 1, 2012 6:37:39 PM

    Originally posted by deithrian:

    Woow! Amazing job you guys It took me only two minutes to type in my username and pass at the login screen.And Google+ loads in only 55 seconds!A new tab gets created for only 5 seconds and switching between tabs takes 3 seconds!Great job on the CPU usage too! Now Opera uses only 98% of my dual core!I'm just amazed how do you guys do it Oh and scrolling! Scrolling is a breeze now! Only half a minute to reach the bottom of the comments here! Great job!Congrats!


    Very constructive! Thanks! smile
  • Muneer Hassan Abdullamha2999Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:44:03 PM

    yes
  • JackWagonWednesday, February 1, 2012 6:46:29 PM

    Originally posted by kapsi:

    Still, extensions should work after disabling the Javascript...




    Yes they should. That way, JS could be toggled on a site-by-site basis in Site Preferences.
  • tenplus1Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:09:38 PM

    There is a noticable pause/stall when moving away from a current page that contains anything flash... This I dont get, even flash games, not even hardware accel items...

    Plugins on Demand seem to be blocking certain authenticated pages again and still load flash in the background instead of WAITING until it's clicked... This one's a doozy...

    Ubuntu 11.10 w/t Nvidia Ion2 and Adobe Flash 11.2 beta 3... funny thing is, the opera labs with OOPP works fine...
  • blaximaWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:12:55 PM

    This build is completely unusable for me. Just like the last build, after upgrading from 11.61 it crashes on start every time when a session is enabled. When choosing to restart without tabs, unite or extensions it crashes and the crash dialogue displays a link to the last open tab/page. This even happens when choosing to not restart at all and just trying to open Opera

    This was a problem for many with the previous build and should be mentioned as a known issue since it has not been addressed.

  • nkumarWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:25:42 PM

    Right-Clcking on any popup window title (Like appearance settings,preference setting popup windows) shows me visual mouse gestures. This issue was resolved in the previous snapshot and added back again.
  • delarge42Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:26:30 PM

    "DSK-340816 Address field focus lost on restart when installing extensions with a toolbar button"

    So I've also tested with clean install and this is what I found out:
    It keeps focus on the address field only when I don't remove search field (which I do since I don't need it). When the search field is removed, Opera stil loses focus on the address field after starting with extensions buttons present.

    Please, work on it a bit more!
  • nkumarWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:29:05 PM

    clicking on delete private data shows System Error
    "The program can't start because xpcom.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem."
  • Damian SkoczylasSCRAMsequenceWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:36:14 PM

    The text on the main page of www.wired.com is corrupted.

    Opera 12.00.1272
    Vista 64bit SP2, HW on, GF 8800GT, 285.62
  • João DavidpiroxicamWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:44:01 PM

    I have this bug:

    When hovering the mouse above that button (New tab button), the button and the Opera menu button move down.
    Strange bug.
  • ugly95Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:53:31 PM

    Originally posted by tenplus1:

    There is a noticable pause/stall when moving away from a current page that contains anything flash... This I dont get, even flash games, not even hardware accel items...

    Plugins on Demand seem to be blocking certain authenticated pages again and still load flash in the background instead of WAITING until it's clicked... This one's a doozy...

    Ubuntu 11.10 w/t Nvidia Ion2 and Adobe Flash 11.2 beta 3... funny thing is, the opera labs with OOPP works fine...

    I've noticed flash issues ever since 11.60 (I'm on Win 7 x64). I know flash videos persisting when a tab was closed was a big issue during the snapshots leading up to the first Ragnarök release. They fixed the major issues before it was released, but I don't think it was ever perfectly fixed.

    I still notice a lot of flash videos jittering when you scroll down a webpage, and some flash content persists briefly when closing a tab. However, this doesn't happen with all websites with flash videos or flash content, and I haven't noticed any pattern. One page that always has the issue is TSN's Ice Chips. The team logos always remain briefly after closing the tab.

    I'd assume it is a known issue since it is fairly obvious, but perhaps it is a difficult fix or maybe it's something that will be fixed when they have out of process plug-ins, so they are just putting it on the back-burner for now.
  • tenplus1Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:56:51 PM

    Originally posted by SCRAMsequence:

    The text on the main page of www.wired.com is corrupted.

    Opera 12.00.1272
    Vista 64bit SP2, HW on, GF 8800GT, 285.62

    Confirmed... the text starts out ok then it changes to bluured text, mebbe css or webfont prob ?!?!
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, February 1, 2012 7:57:56 PM

    Originally posted by JackWagon:

    Originally posted by kapsi:

    Still, extensions should work after disabling the Javascript...




    Yes they should. That way, JS could be toggled on a site-by-site basis in Site Preferences.
    Extensions shouldn't be working at all after disabling JavaScript. Think on what they are based on... well, yes, JavaScript.
  • kapsiWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:10:49 PM

    Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

    Originally posted by JackWagon:

    Originally posted by kapsi:

    Still, extensions should work after disabling the Javascript...




    Yes they should. That way, JS could be toggled on a site-by-site basis in Site Preferences.


    Extensions shouldn't be working at all after disabling JavaScript. Think on what they are based on... well, yes, JavaScript.
    Then call it "disable javascript on website"
  • Edward JayedbjWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:15:21 PM

    Opera Next/1224 & 1272 - WinXP/32-bit

    When I start to enter someting in the search field, the drop down menu covers the field. See <www.edbjay.com/search_field_blocked.jpg>.
  • flowebWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:22:22 PM

    Originally posted by delarge42:

    "DSK-340816 Address field focus lost on restart when installing extensions with a toolbar button"

    So I've also tested with clean install and this is what I found out:
    It keeps focus on the address field only when I don't remove search field (which I do since I don't need it). When the search field is removed, Opera stil loses focus on the address field after starting with extensions buttons present.

    Please, work on it a bit more!

    +1!! This is very annoying for me too. After Opera has started I always have to wait a few seconds before I can type in the address field sad
  • RijkWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:28:24 PM

    Originally posted by piroxicam:

    I have this bug:
    http://i41.tinypic.com/wvzbec.gif]
    When hovering the mouse above that button (New tab button), the button and the Opera menu button move down.
    Strange bug.

    You should explain that you are using a customized toolbar... adding extra buttons next to the menu button has resulted in various not-so-pretty looks in previous versions of Opera. But this effect is new I think smile
  • exzentrikWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:32:11 PM

    Originally posted by ugly95:

    I still notice a lot of flash videos jittering when you scroll down a webpage, and some flash content persists briefly when closing a tab.



    Yes. This is reproducable. Start a flash video (e.g. on YouTube) and do a single left click on an empty space in the tab bar - the flash video stops for a moment.
  • ChocimierchocimirWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:34:54 PM

    Originally posted by delarge42:

    When the search field is removed, Opera stil loses focus on the address field after starting with extensions buttons present.


    Or when extensions' buttons are moved to other toolbar ("Hotlist floating" for me).
  • KamaleshkamaleshWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:36:09 PM

    Congrats to you, Dustin! How does it feel to be in the belly of the beast, after all these years on the outside. wink Enjoying that 4:30pm sunset in Oslo yet?

    Nice improvements with this snapshot.

    The smarter suggestiions are welcome.

    Please consider adding an "extended" drop-down mode. My Opera viewport is sized on my MBP display down to the bottom, to 1050 px. Currently, the suggest drop-down sometimes says "Show 4 more" at the bottom of the list. Maybe have the list dynamically size to 75% or 90% of the viewport. Requiring a click to show 4 more results is wasted user action, I think.

    Semi-related: The addr bar drop-down could be show more results in Opera for iPad, also.
  • Andre BischoffabinoxxWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:40:44 PM

    Zooming with mouse wheel not possible on: http://www.geocaching.com/map/beta/default.aspx
  • lordxxx2Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:41:01 PM

    Nice snapshot.
    Any plans to fix regression DSK-352202 by release 12?
    Thanks!
  • ugly95Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:46:34 PM

    Originally posted by exzentrik:

    Originally posted by ugly95:

    I still notice a lot of flash videos jittering when you scroll down a webpage, and some flash content persists briefly when closing a tab.



    Yes. This is reproducable. Start a flash video (e.g. on YouTube) and do a single left click on an empty space in the tab bar - the flash video stops for a moment.
    I've never noticed that before, but I can reproduce it.

    However, that's not what I meant by jittering. For example, notice on this page there is an embedded YouTube video. When you scroll the page, the video, whether it is playing or not, jitters (or maybe shakes is a better word). As it shakes you can see white appear along the border of the flash element. Also, when you close the tab, the video element will persist for a few seconds after the rest of the page disappears.

    I'm not entirely sure this only happens with Opera, though. When you scroll with IE9 the video sort of shakes a bit too, however it isn't as obvious since no white appears as the video scrolls. Also the flash element doesn't remain when you close the tab like it does in Opera.
  • RijkWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:51:21 PM

    Originally posted by blaxima:

    This build is completely unusable for me. Just like the last build, after upgrading from 11.61 it crashes on start every time when a session is enabled.

    Have you sent in crash logs? If so, with which mail address, so I could look it up?
  • JimtoyotabedzrockWednesday, February 1, 2012 8:57:21 PM

    @Dustin Wilson - Khadgar

    Can you start a blog so other Opera fans can harass talk to you and help make Opera #1.

    cheers

About this article

Published inDesktop Team blog
DateFebruary 1, 2012
AuthorDustin Wilson
Tagsook
OriginalInternet Archive