Opera 11.00 Release Candidate 1

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• Shane Bundy14. December 2010, 21:03

  RC already! I swear there was a build this morning...

• Frans14. December 2010, 21:04

  This changelog is since 1145? Impressive!

• Aaron Toth14. December 2010, 21:04

  Thanks! Will test.

• Francisco Herrera14. December 2010, 21:07

  Nice!

• Mark14. December 2010, 21:07

  Originally posted by operabaker:

  RC already! I swear there was a build this morning...

  
  
  See the explanation, the are from different development branches.
  
  The stable branch gets stuff added once proven to work in the snapshots.

• pchidamb14. December 2010, 21:08

  Font rendering has changed since 1140 in Unix? I have explictly set all my fonts to 'Ubuntu', but I still see Sans being used oddly, like in this page. My content settings for user and author mode explictly says 'My fonts'

• Igor14. December 2010, 21:09

  'desktop.ini' is fixed for me

• Commaster14. December 2010, 21:10

  Arrgh! My eyes! Too many builds x_x Keep going, Opera Team!

• David Tsunamy14. December 2010, 21:12

  No autotab stasking
  
  Nice!! It is very stable!!

• Pablo Mendoza14. December 2010, 21:15

  

• QuHno14. December 2010, 21:16

  /me prepares the folder for the deployment of the final, won't last too long, this build seems to be stable enough
  
  Good work, keep it up

• Igor14. December 2010, 21:16

  Did this version set itself as default browser or I forgot to uncheck something during installation?

• rstaganrog14. December 2010, 21:17

  without tabs autostacking...

• Gereford14. December 2010, 21:17

  Greate! Thx for RC

• rstaganrog14. December 2010, 21:18

  where is autostacking in about:config?

• Pablo Mendoza14. December 2010, 21:18

  No more desktop.ini

• genegold14. December 2010, 21:18

  Except for the one crashing build, 10.70 and 11.00 have been very usable. Good work.
  
  Tab stacking: It looks like betwen 1148 and 1149 auto tab stacking has disappeared in favor of only manual stacking. And I was finally getting used to having the new tab set up next to the current one. That's something I do like a lot.
  
  
  
  

• Dustin Wilson14. December 2010, 21:19

  The Mac skin is somewhat broken: Regular tabs and tab stacks overlap a bit; the new security information in the address bar's right padding is nonexistent; panels have an ugly iOS-like scrollbar; panels are also grey instead of the OS standard pale blue; panels with the status bar disabled have a grey bar at the bottom that won't go away (been like that since Opera 10.5 alpha); buttons in toolbars have horrible padding, really noticeable on extension buttons and non-default buttons such as author mode/user mode (been like that since Opera 10.5 alpha).
  
  I'm unsure why the scrollbar for the panels is like it is. It's true that early screenshots for Lion show something like that, but it's best to use the present native scrollbar and not slap together something that resembles something that'll be in an OS update a year from now.

• sebt14. December 2010, 21:19

  Nice. Though there are still a number of issues:
  
  - Mouse gestures are still not working consistently and nicely as in the 10.6x line, and for the pre-Gesture assistant builds.
  1. Need to sometimes repeat gestures several times to get them to work
  2. The wrong gesture is read sometimes
  3. Smaller strokes on the gesture are often ignored
  
  *Please* can we have gestures back like they used to be?
  
  - Tab stacking is working better but it would be nice to have the option to configure auto-stacking. It seems to be off again by default (although it's behaved like it's "on" a few times - bug?). For research-style browsing this is really useful, although as a default behaviour it should really be disabled.
  
  - Switching between tabs in a stack with ctrl+tab causes a tab-bar redraw behaviour that's a little disconcerting. Perhaps it's just a taste thing; i think the idea is to visualise that one tab has replaced another in the stack, but with a number of other tabs, the stack seems to grow and shrink
  
  - I'm seeing graphical glitches and noise in the stacked-tab preview thumbnails on occasion. It seems that the (stack) thumbnails are generated as a function of window size - if I resize the opera window, the thumbnails change their "zoom". This looks like a bug.
  
  - Speeddial page is skewing thumnails upon resize. Maybe the aspect (4x3 or 16x10) should be a config option, and the speedial should stick to it.
  
  - Still printing and print preview are not working properly (font and word spacing skewed, incorrect layout, and inability to view the whole page from preview). Will this ever be fixed?
  
  Nice to see that most of the tab stacking annoyances have been fixed, but please take a look at mouse gestures before release.
  
  Keep up the good work!
  
  Seb
  

• MyOpera team, please fix this!14. December 2010, 21:21

  Originally posted by Frans:

  This changelog is since 1145? Impressive!

  We are always behind. We got the build this morning but it could have been done days or weeks ago. Same for this one.

• Irontiger14. December 2010, 21:21

  Good work so far

• eonblue14. December 2010, 21:23

  still this problem to share on facebook:
  http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2748/nophotoq.jpg

• operic14. December 2010, 21:24

  1. we want tab autostacking!
  2. mouse gestures for reload usually don't work
  
  

• Christian Rivest14. December 2010, 21:26

  Good to see a international build

• ouzowtf14. December 2010, 21:29

  Peacekeeper java system scan does not work. Its shown only white space where the applet should be.
  This could cause a lot of negative response from testers.
  
  w7x64

• Asires14. December 2010, 21:29

  RC1
  You're crazy
  
  Bug: new tab from last page in stack opens outside of stack when "Open new tab next to active" is turned on. I hope it will be fixed and it is not "correct behaviour".
  
  Serious bug: mouse gestures not fixed. They working worser than in Firefox now and it's ridiculous. I will not Upgrade to 11 final if they will not be fixed to excellent Opera 10.6 condition. They're that's much for me.

• mjpa14. December 2010, 21:33

  Still getting repaint issues - eg the country select on Dell site: http://www.dell.com/us/p/
  
  Popup thumbnails for tabs still don't disappear if you don't hover over something that causes a hover effect (eg links)
  
  Caption buttons stick in hover state when it's maximised and you move to 2nd monitor
  
  Inconsistent switching to last active tab: Open 1 tab (we'll call it A) and then open 4 background tabs (B, C, D, E). *Minimise* tab A and D will become active, *close* tab D and B will become active.
  

• Nico14. December 2010, 21:34

  It's working very well this far.
  
  Once Opera 11 is final, I definitely have to do a clean install again

• coyotemon14. December 2010, 21:37

  On a netbook Atom N280 w/ XP Home SP3 loads in 12 sec... too much. Firefox 4.0b7 loads in 7 sec

• Moe Greene14. December 2010, 21:37

  Originally posted by Khadgar:

  The Mac skin is somewhat broken

  
  
  Hear, hear. The scrollbars are really weird, aren't they? And it's not only the panels, it's the address bar dropdown as well. And is it just me, or has the font size been reduced in the address bar?

• vincent14. December 2010, 21:38

  internal command "set label" for mails still not working....
  It is very useful command and pls fix it~~~ thanks!~

• Dalibor14. December 2010, 21:43

  testing, thanks

• MaxDamage14. December 2010, 21:44

  You are rushing with Opera 11 to 24 december. It's good or not? Hard to tell...
  
  BUG:
  Skins aren't automatically updated

• René-Gilles Deberdt14. December 2010, 21:45

  Failed RC for me, I'm afraid
  
  - "Set as default" was checked when I launched the installer. I always verify this and it's always unchecked. My Opera is set to default already and I don't like when installers try to mess with my settings.
  
  - Once again, my tab stacks were all gone, except for the first one, when upgrading from rev 1140 to rev 1149.
  
  - And once again, it crashed soon after I started rebuilding my stacks.
  
  I'm not going to spend my entire night working it out. It doesn't work, it doesn't work. Hopefully you guys will figure it out before Gold is out. I would be devastated if it wasn't the case.

• withme14. December 2010, 21:45

  dragging bookmark from the bookmarks bar onto the tab bar causes crash.

• Galileo14. December 2010, 21:45

  Can you verify this http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/23325792?startidx=50#comment49523942 .Hotmail issue was my problem, not Opera's.

• Opera User14. December 2010, 21:48

  Originally posted by Igor Jerosimic:

  'desktop.ini' is fixed for me

  Can happily confirm Exceptional work Opera team

• Grasli14. December 2010, 21:50

  I can't see the top line of stacks anymore (the glass-line). Its fine on the sides of the tabs though, just not at the top (in visual tabs its the same, even with the bottom glass-line). This is in normal maximized Opera view. Too little space above the tabs at the top when it maximized mode apparently..
  
  Can anyone confirm? This is since the last snapshot..

• Dustin Wilson14. December 2010, 21:55

  Originally posted by moegreene:

  And is it just me, or has the font size been reduced in the address bar?

  
  
  Aye! Missed that one, although I think others have cried foul on this particular change already. I'd say something about the messed-up behavior of the mail panel when scrolling, but I've already stated my opinion earlier when they were asking for people's opinions on it.

• Penge14. December 2010, 21:56

  Originally posted by withme:

  dragging bookmark from the bookmarks bar onto the tab bar causes crash.

  
  Confirmed (Win7 x64)
  
  BTW: What's the unite-updates-test.opera.com?

• Timur14. December 2010, 21:57

  Where is operaprefs_default.ini now? Previously, it was in the root folder of the program. With this file you can easily set the setting ([System] Multi User=0) to create the profile folder in the root folder of the program. This is useful for copying to a flash card. Or, is this configuration in the browser now?

• ah-jong14. December 2010, 21:58

  Google docs (spreadsheets.google.com) problem: if click on a cell, the focus will be in another cell. Also some cells are grey.
  
  http://imagemaster.ru/files/tmp/opera_01.png

• Nils Herde14. December 2010, 21:59

  Two things stopping me from upgrading:
  
  1. Pinned tabs are to difficult to hit when just being a favicon. I want the option to turn them back into regular sized tabs
  
  2. The skin I use, Kyle Bakers great Ambiance skin for Ubuntu, sadly doesn't work with the new tab stacking. It should be added that I use a slightly older version without the colorful icons and that the newest version may work with it.
  
  These two are real deal-breakers. Sadly you can only fix the one. Kyle, maybe you could fix the other?

• Weril14. December 2010, 21:59

  Extensions site load as "secured" and then become "web".

• Sk0l14. December 2010, 22:00

  BUG(?): After remove some search engines and click 'cancel', the cancel function is ignored.
  
  Can anyone confirm?

• pcormier14. December 2010, 22:00

  Looking good!
  
  Is there a plan to fix the Flash issues before the official release? I'm still not able to play the following FB game:
  
  http://apps.facebook.com/prizeorama/
  
  This is actually a game we developed and I wonder if the issue is that it uses the new FB graph API... Maybe?
  
  We have a second game which also uses the same API and it is also failing:
  
  http://apps.facebook.com/sendhappythoughts/
  
  BTW, the error says that Flash is not installed but it is... I am able to run the games from IE and Firefox on the same machine (and am able to run other flash games from Opera).
  
  Thanks!
  Pierre

• Joel14. December 2010, 22:01

  Here's another tab stacking bug:
  1. Set the tab closing behavior to activate the last used tab.
  2. Put 2-3 tabs in a stack.
  3. Focus the second to last tab in the stack.
  4. Focus the last tab in the stack and close it. The newly focused tab should now be the last one in the stack.
  5. Press Ctrl+Z to restore the closed tab. The restored tab appears to the right of the stack with the expander arrow to its right, but the stack border doesn't include it and the tab isn't in the stack.

• hheck14. December 2010, 22:02

  Not sure if it's just me but I think when I upgraded from 1145 the bookmarks bar style changed. It used to look like it was integrated with the search bar, but now there is a separator.
  
  If anyone else noticed this, is this an expected change? If so, how do I undo it. It's ugly.

• micsk14. December 2010, 22:03

  (Very minor installer language flaw: When changing language from American to British English, "Accept and Upgrade" becomes "Accept and upgrade" - or is this intended? Also, "Terms of Use" always keeps the language of the OS.)
  
  Also: Why isn't the space for tabs used mor efficiently?
  See: http://min.us/mvsLfL
  
  Is it an OS issue?
  
  Edit: Thanks for adding the Opera-badge, e.g. for opera:config.
  
  What I always wondered regarding opera:config - why aren't there any help entries (clicking the ?-icon)? Would it be possible to let the community add them?

• Grasli14. December 2010, 22:04

  Originally posted by hheck:

  Not sure if it's just me but I think when I upgraded from 1145 the bookmarks bar style changed. It used to look like it was integrated with the search bar, but now there is a separator.
  
  If anyone else noticed this, is this an expected change? If so, how do I undo it. It's ugly.

  Confirmed Win7 x64.
  It looked a lot better before when it didn't have a line between there..