Opera 12 beta

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• Çağlar YeşilyurtgreenchThursday, April 26, 2012 6:09:42 AM

  Thank you

• Samed AyanagresiffThursday, April 26, 2012 6:10:38 AM

  

• karlosrocksThursday, April 26, 2012 6:10:46 AM

  I think you shouldn't have released yet, is the same snapshot of the RC? edited: yes
  the comment below is overlapped to the right column

• micfeyThursday, April 26, 2012 6:11:13 AM

  If i choose to display the menu, the whole top of the browser shows funky colors, as if i had a bad display driver (clean install on win xp). Happens exactly since the last 2 snapshots and the current beta.
  
  

• z@h3kZAHEKThursday, April 26, 2012 6:14:45 AM

  

• rekkooThursday, April 26, 2012 6:15:52 AM

  We can report whatever we want - Opera programmers don't care and release beta (then final version, you'll see - exactly what happens all versions before). I wonder why they release all that alpha/beta versions and RC if no matter how many people report bugs, nothing happens and "beta" is released anyway. Without even one change.

• CristiancristianerThursday, April 26, 2012 6:16:45 AM

  Thanks!

• Toha134Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:19:57 AM

  I have problems in last builds:
  1. Opera freezes when open document in Google Docs
  2. Render artifacts when horizontal scroll large table

• sabisanThursday, April 26, 2012 6:24:11 AM

  GMail login: "Unable to complete secure transaction"
  
  Win7x64 - Opera x64

• Don-PromilloThursday, April 26, 2012 6:27:00 AM

  Opera still does not start when hardware acceleration is enabled. Reported it for the last two builds, too.
  
  Win 7 32-bit Intel 945 Express Chipset; Driver version: 8.15.10.1930
  
  Submitted it as Bug DSK-362232
  

• Mark A.NightMayorThursday, April 26, 2012 6:33:48 AM

  Opera 12 crashes at this website:
  http://html5example.net/entry/html5-showcases/webm-hd-video-example-vp8-html-5
  
  Opera 12 also does not render this website correctly as well as background canvas does not work:
  http://html5example.net/static/html/html5-WebM-VP8-video.html
  
  Mageia Linux 1 GNOME, Opera 12.00 HWA Disabled- ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics (AMD Catalyst™ 12.4)

• RobMintsoftThursday, April 26, 2012 6:36:42 AM

  Awesome
  
  Are there any docs/examples for the new Extension Windows/Tabs API yet?

• UnknownFactorThursday, April 26, 2012 6:36:48 AM

  Originally posted by karlosrocks:

  I think you shouldn't have released yet, is the same snapshot of the RC? edited: yes
  the comment below is overlapped to the right column

  Beta doesn't mean that there's any less bugs than in alpha, beta means it's feature complete. Release candidate means it should be near production value in terms of there being few bugs left- but beta may well have many bugs. With that said, I'm posting this from a 11.6x build because the 12 builds are just too buggy to use right now Can't wait till they get a solid build out though.

• KilokilozaThursday, April 26, 2012 6:49:33 AM

  Urgh... pluginwrapper just is intollerable!
  
  http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/taskmanager0.jpg
  
  This beta crashes, does not respond, all the previous issues except for the pure virtual function call error... I am done. Rolling back and waiting this crashfest out thanks.
  
  Win7 64bit USB clean install
  
  

• SergedaishiThursday, April 26, 2012 6:49:34 AM

  Any news about: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=618172&t=1335422802&page=1#comment12152052 ?

• LicaonThursday, April 26, 2012 6:51:28 AM

  http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ -> Download -> 32bit
  
  How do I get the 64bit version?

• Erik HauboldAltariusThursday, April 26, 2012 7:00:58 AM

  Originally posted by Licaon:

  http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ -> Download -> 32bit
  
  How do I get the 64bit version?

  is the build from yesterday... http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/maybeta_12.00-1387/Opera-Next-12.00-1387.x64.exe

• Enoch Appiah JunioridjuniorThursday, April 26, 2012 7:01:51 AM

  its bout time! Yes!

• Kertesz LaszlogradinaruvasileThursday, April 26, 2012 7:05:34 AM

  Originally posted by Toha134:

  I have problems in last builds:
  1. Opera freezes when open document in Google Docs
  2. Render artifacts when horizontal scroll large table

  Google Docs never worked well in Opera. The devs should really invest some time in this because the Google apps are used by many people.

• Thomas vFRavenThursday, April 26, 2012 7:10:22 AM

  Why is this released as a OperaNext-Version? Shouldn't the public beta also be released as a "normal" version?
  
  See http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/991/ :
  "In comparison to Opera Next, the Opera browser product is designed for day-to-day use and is only released for beta, release candidiate (RC), and final versions. While these releases are identical to beta, RC, and final versions of Opera Next, the installations still remain separate, as described above."

• rseilerThursday, April 26, 2012 7:16:14 AM

  The upcoming weeks...

  
  That's quite a relief. For a second there, I thought we were careening toward banging the rest of this out by Monday.
  

• MoustoneThursday, April 26, 2012 7:17:09 AM

  Every time I exit, it must crash.
  Even if I choose a fresh USB standlone install.

• XP1Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:17:46 AM

  Cannot ignore or cancel installer error.
  
  Reported as bug DSK-362213.
  
  Using Opera-Next-12.00-1387.i386.exe installer on Windows 7.
  
  1. Disable taskbar pinning.
  2. Open installer > Options > Enable "pin to taskbar" > Accept and Install.
  3. "Installer Error" dialog shows "Failed to pin Opera to taskbar. Error code: 92".
  4. Ignore and cancel buttons are broken.
  
  ---
  
  Disable taskbar pinning by saving REG file and importing:
  
  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
  
  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
  "NoPinningToTaskbar"=dword:00000001
  
  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
  "NoPinningToTaskbar"=dword:00000001
  
  ---
  
  Undo disable taskbar pinning by saving REG file and importing:
  
  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
  
  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
  "NoPinningToTaskbar"=-
  
  [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
  "NoPinningToTaskbar"=-
  
  ---

• Алексейkudesnik84Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:18:43 AM

  Молодцы команда Опера!

• bastimemphisThursday, April 26, 2012 7:23:29 AM

  is it possible to add different configs for the menu? i like my "opera 9.2 compatbile" layout

• logytechThursday, April 26, 2012 7:26:12 AM

  When this specs will introduced, right now Presto 2.10.289...
  
  Clipboard API
  Added the following support for Clipboard API (Presto/2.10.292)
  Implemented copy, cut, and paste events for text/plain and text/html content.
  Implemented support for copy, cut, and paste arguments to document.execCommand(), if allowed by site-specific preference.
  See: Clipboard API and events

• helper_小辉zhaghuihhThursday, April 26, 2012 7:28:43 AM

  wahoo wahoo！

• SinttiThursday, April 26, 2012 7:29:46 AM

  If you have hardware acceleration turned on and are experiencing rendering or stability issues, consider turning it off (the default).

  
  
  Does this mean you have given up on it? After all the hype? You're going to brush it under the carpet? If so, what a shame. I'd be very disappointed by the attitude and unwillingness to deal with hard problems. I was really rooting for this.
  

• BigMuscleThursday, April 26, 2012 7:34:51 AM

  It it still unusable. Same as several previous builds.
  
  a) it hangs and crashes very often (when HW enabled)
  b) it is very slow
  c) sometimes texts are displayed with zero letter spacing (when HW enabled)
  d) dragging a link opens URL in new tab although "no action" icon is displayed

• Daned4n3Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:35:55 AM

  New extension APIs for tabs!
  
  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1376862
  

• DoubleTThursday, April 26, 2012 7:36:08 AM

  Regression
  DSK-362239: Opera.exe is not a valid win32 application

• alekksanderThursday, April 26, 2012 7:36:17 AM

  "Smooth and stable browsing, thanks to support for out-of-process plug-ins" don't know what exactly does it mean.. even scrolling became heavy... more like opposite to "smooth", and "oopp" are very laggy and slow responding. Sorry to say that, but i WAS really excited about all new v.12 changes... and now i can only hope there is still long way from this beta to last RC. And the unite support drop... this can't be good. There are still simple skin problems that probably require not more than several minutes of work. Regular users really care a lot about what they see. They change few simple skin options and suddenly they discover that this Opera can't handle it's own easily accessible options. Another thing is the transformation thats going on... i remember when "others" were inspired by opera, now it's the other way... sad.

• danielmmmmThursday, April 26, 2012 7:37:39 AM

  Beta is still _very_ slow on my laptop C2D P8700 with 4 GB ram. Scrolling with mouse wheel is painfully slow and the window dragging bug still exists, although it is less severe than in past releases. When dragging windows around, the mouse cursor still sometimes catches a picture and then Opera opens a new tab with that picture in it. Looks like the window being dragged is lagging behind the mouse cursor and then a web site element gets to be under the mouse cursor instead of the window title bar. (This concerns only people who use the MDI)
  
  Also the "Encyclopedia" in the right click menu uses the Wikipedia version of the country of origin. I sit in Norway but I want the English version of Wikipedia, not the Norwegian!
  
  On the plus side, tab grouping is being remembered through sessions!
  I LOVE YOU SOOOO MUCH

• netwolfThursday, April 26, 2012 7:39:09 AM

  Originally posted by rseiler:

  The upcoming weeks...

  
  That's quite a relief. For a second there, I thought we were careening toward banging the rest of this out by Monday.
  

  +1 absolutely

• drwormThursday, April 26, 2012 7:41:44 AM

  YIKES! We've made it to Beta and dragging is still completely broken.
  
  To clarify:
  - Dragging a restored tab by it's titlebar does not work
  - Dragging the divider between mail list and view does not work.
  - Dragging within webapps that has their own JavaScript drag handling does not work.
  
  In the first two cases, dragging works for moment before it snaps and starts dragging an image. of what you were dragging.

• dEricT MalEDerictThursday, April 26, 2012 7:55:19 AM

  I don't know why, I upgrade 11.62 winxp 32-bit to 12.00 beta 1 32bit, opera won't access the internet, then I tried localhost doesn't work too,,,
  ARrrrrrggghhh:faint:

• Richard WoodrichardhulaThursday, April 26, 2012 7:57:30 AM

  Originally posted by Licaon:

  http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ -> Download -> 32bit
  
  How do I get the 64bit version?

  Its in April 25th posting - same build 1387

• ScratchThursday, April 26, 2012 7:59:44 AM

  1) Multiple Out of the process plugin debug windows appear if you open multiple tabs with flash video. After opera freezes and crashes of course.
  
  2) Flash video playback is WAY much slower than on Chrome.
  
  3) Global wand password window has NO caption
  
  4) Trying to move down the split part of the mail window does not allow it to move untill all messages are gone
  
  This is not beta, this is a piece of you know what

• ll3moThursday, April 26, 2012 8:01:20 AM

  Still crash on http://diretta.it
  Still slower than 11.62 (even with hwa off)
  Still freezes on youtube page and in any page with flash
  Google maps still not working, and any other drag and drop kind of problem.
  
  (opera x64, w8cp x64, hwa off)

• MaximSailorMaxThursday, April 26, 2012 8:04:24 AM

  Originally posted by huibk:

  Happy testing!

  
  This build was tested in previous post

• einiThursday, April 26, 2012 8:04:41 AM

  Man where to start, this really shouldn't be called a beta.
  
  

  Originally posted by drworm:

  YIKES! We've made it to Beta and dragging is still completely broken.

  
  Yes, Mouse-Events in general seem to be broken.
  - I keep dragging links instead of klicking and making wrong mouse-gestures. All the mouse-threshold seem to be way of (changing "Enable Drag" option doesn't make any difference).
  - The "Open Dragged Link In Background"-Option seems to be ignored.
  
  - The startup is slow, compared to the stable.
  - The "Show Speed Dial" button looks still very bad, although the text is readable again.
  - Scrolling on load is very jumpy.
  - Rendering on scroll is completely broken (try http://www.pnp.de/region_und_lokal/stadt_und_landkreis_passau/pocking_bad_fuessing_bad_griesbach/ - Just scroll up and down)
  
  An all this just in the first 10 minutes
  The whole browser is nearly impossible to use.
  
  WinXP SP3
  

• LicaonThursday, April 26, 2012 8:07:38 AM

  Originally posted by Altarius:

  Originally posted by Licaon:

  http://www.opera.com/browser/next/" target="_blank">http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ -> Download -> 32bit
  How do I get the 64bit version?

  is the build from yesterday... http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/maybeta_12.00-1387/Opera-Next-12.00-1387.x64.exe

  
  That is not the point, I can do that everyday, BUT the Opera Next page says "new feature: *64-bit support for Windows and Mac" YET that page has no 64bit build. I want to forward the link to my friends that don't do daily Opera Next Alpha testing but want to see what's new. For the moment I can't.
  
  Also, on that page I can't download the Linux version if I'm on Windows!?

• zoqueteThursday, April 26, 2012 8:08:25 AM

  no 64bit version?
  
  http://people.opera.com/danield/html5/explode/
  
  bluetooth video desconnected.
  
  What have I to do?

• FavDjiXasThursday, April 26, 2012 8:09:21 AM

  YouTube is very unstable, crashing all the time when playing videos

• Shomari-RBGThursday, April 26, 2012 8:10:05 AM

  Still freezing and becoming unresponsive on pages with Flash content, tested w/ clean profile, problem still exists.
  
  - Scrolling has improved but still not as smooth as 11.62
  
  - twitter.com status updates were showing time/date as "NaN"; issue appears to be fixed. Time and date now showing correctly.
  
  
  XP SP3

• Blazej KazmierczakbkazmierczakThursday, April 26, 2012 8:12:40 AM

  Originally posted by ll3mo:

  Still crash on http://diretta.it

  
  It's known issue now, thanks for letting us know.

• Krissz5435Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:22:03 AM

  Is there any way to change direct3d backend to opengl for the hardware acceleration?

• hoo46912932Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:32:53 AM

  Originally posted by zhaghuihh:

  wahoo wahoo！

  
  终于见到一个中国人啦！

• blinkybillThursday, April 26, 2012 8:33:05 AM

  Hi,
  One thing I have noticed that when you click on Opera Menu - Help - Check for Updates when it says Opera is up to date, if you click Ok it doesn't close the box instead you have to click on the close button in the box before it will disappear.
  
  cheers
  blinky

• Patrick O'Reillypaddy2kThursday, April 26, 2012 8:37:58 AM

  Will the Closed Tabs icon be returned for the final build?
  When should we expect websockets to be turn back on by default (i.e. supporting RFC 6455)