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  • MossManWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:00:16 PM

    Originally posted by Crimi:

    There is not even a dialog "do you want to import your settings from Opera 11.64" or "do you want to remove your old Opera installation".It's just not user-friendly.How will the auto-updater do this? Upgrade to 32-bits by default? Even with a 64-bit OS?



    Interesting... I was wondering yesterday if this was going to be a problem when the stable version at home gets updated! Looks like I have to "fix" it myself (must make sure my wife doesn't let it update before I get back from work! :lol: )
  • kubat1987Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:02:17 PM

    Almost forgot. This weather map blinks in negative when a "tooltip" with a city's/region's data disappears: http://lowcyburz.pl/skypredict/warns/issue/view.php
  • DrillSargeWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:02:27 PM

    Opera sometimes freezes on pages with embedded youtube-video for a few seconds. also sometimes there is a drawing issue with such embedded video. f.e. when moving volume slider the video flashes black for a short time

    (Win7 x64, Opera x64, Flash 11.3)
  • sipertrukWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:07:03 PM

    Still some loading bar popping artifact after scrolling while loading.
    It's no release blocker I guess.
    http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=216232
  • coolgrevenWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:13:50 PM

    does still cached images problem exist?
  • GalileoWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:22:33 PM

    André Torga check Charles Schloss comment http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/49809812#comment90997652 , it has the same effect in address bar as petval described.
  • earth01Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:23:41 PM

    Originally posted by coolgreven:

    does still cached images problem exist?


    Fixed in the previous RC normally.
  • HadesWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:24:08 PM

    What on earth should I do, to avoid this SHIT? :down:

    http://i.imgur.com/cbZlQ.jpg

    Clean install of RC6 x64, cleaned cache of Flash 11.3.300.257, Java 1.7.0.5 installed also newly, and this crap is just here again and againfor build I don't know which one... :cry:

    Oh, and afterwise closing ALL this windows, I still have this 8 line, with STILL working plugin wrappers:

    http://i.imgur.com/hVR71.jpg

    Can it be a setting, or a PC related thing, or what the hell? (in my home PC I also receive the same crap, on W7 32 bit as well)

    Sorry, I just feel disappointed about my favourite browser is getting down like this. :awww:
  • feldWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:24:49 PM

    FreeBSD9 amd64, build 1467 -- upgrade from 11.64, no HW, no webGL, XFCE desktop

    I eventually lose the ability to click anything at all and I have to restart opera. Clicking and dragging to highlight text stops working, the mouse doesn't highlight links, sometimes the mouse turns into a weird circle. Opera 12 is going to be useless to me if there isn't a workaround.
  • TA5KWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:27:17 PM

  • karolpWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:29:13 PM

    Originally posted by praetor87:

    http://imgur.com/if1Mw
    Embedded Wmp won't load in too.

    You'll get that error in IE and Chrome too..
  • minhoWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:31:34 PM

    On my machine, this is the worst release since 10.50
    Many NSL
    High cpu usage
    Very bad scrolling performance
    I cant watch flash videos because all videos have lag
    Rendering is more slow than on 11.64
    Several UI bugs
    :cry: :sad:
    I am rolling back to 11.64, waiting for the next bug fix release. :wait:

    Fedora 17 x32, hwa off, webgl off
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:32:27 PM

    Minor bug, someone reported it before me for the first time:
    • Open any extension's preferences page
    • Do Gesture-left or flip back

    Expected result: there shouldn't be 'back' as an option on this page. Actual result: Speed Dial is shown.
  • AndréWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:34:55 PM

    Anyone can confirm?
    CSS Visibility/Opacity Transition still don't work at some sites.
    At http://opera.com/ the menus don't show the transition effect, but at https://bugs.opera.com/wizarddesktop/ it does.

    Win7x64 Ox64 HWA on & off
  • Otto WasserfeldtWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:38:45 PM

    I can only repeat myself, this bug is still present: "After scrolling in opera with my touchpad (Synaptics, Acer Aspire 7738G) the mouse cursor is changing to "Busy" and stays at this cursor. It only happens when I scroll for a long time. Then i have to move the mouse pointer to get the normal cursor. "

    Here a video with this problem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7MiAwnvOWk&feature=youtu.be
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:39:17 PM

    Originally posted by An-dz:

    Anyone can confirm?
    CSS Visibility/Opacity Transition still don't work at some sites.
    At http://opera.com/ the menus don't show the transition effect, but at https://bugs.opera.com/wizarddesktop/ it does.

    Win7x64 Ox64 HWA on & off

    Is this transition effect supposed to show at Opera.com at all? If it is, then yeah, I can confirm that it does not show.
  • Denis GromovWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:40:16 PM

    Bug: When editing a text in Google Docs keys Ctrl+C (copy) don't work :sad:
  • Evren Esat ÖzkanWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:42:52 PM

    Tab/titlebar integration is still broken on my linux box, does it postponed to a 12.x version?

    O, min, max and close buttons are disappearing when a file selection dialog pops up. They are reappear after minimizing and maximizing.

    KDE 4.7.2 r5 on OpenSuse 12.1 with Monster skin.
  • AndréWednesday, June 13, 2012 2:44:28 PM

    Originally posted by D1sasterp1ece:

    Is this transition effect supposed to show at Opera.com at all? If it is, then yeah, I can confirm that it does not show.


    That's why it works at bug report wizard.
    And the -o-transition is present in the css, you can check with dragonfly.
    And with Opera 11.64 it works.

    I was unsure if it was only with me.
  • krishna8Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:47:38 PM

    Originally posted by Capt-Karacho:

    Originally posted by satomew:

    Can someone please confirm DSK-364912?Go to http://www.meteo.pt/pt/ and tell me if the Flash animation loads or if you're delivered with a blank area in the page. Also occurs in 11.64 for me.


    You mean the weather map?If yes,works fine at me.Also in 11.64
    EDIT:Here is a screenshot from the site
    http://www.abload.de/img/wetterportugalyt7iz.jpg
    the page works fine here....
  • Frederick BarnettWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:04:03 PM

    Originally posted by TA5K:

    Can anyone confirm font issues at https://pod.geraspora.de/users/sign_in or http://forum.sourcefabric.org/e.g?


    Looks fine to me.

    Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit, SP 1
    ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500, 12.3 drivers
    64 bit RC 6, clean install
    HWA & WebGL off.
  • Ukito1Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:06:59 PM

    1 session (folder) in this session 20 tabs, expand popup menu like in Bookmarks,
    for ex: I have saved 10 sessions, and to some of them I need the tab, which were not open all 10 sessions, and check each one. Just going to watch the session as the menu, I see each link and a title and icon. As implemented in the bookmarks
  • André TorgaWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:12:15 PM

    Originally posted by Crimi:

    How will the auto-updater do this? Upgrade to 32-bits by default? Even with a 64-bit OS?

    Most likely, yes. It's the logical thing to do. And are you sure that the settings are not imported? At least on Windows, Opera stores the settings in both %LocalAppData% and %AppData% regardless of the user running the 32-bit or 64-bit version and this running a regular (non-portable) installation.

    Originally posted by Galileo:

    André Torga check Charles Schloss comment http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/49809812#comment90997652 , it has the same effect in address bar as petval described.

    That I can confirm. :smile:

    Originally posted by Capt-Karacho:

    You mean the weather map?If yes,works fine at me.Also in 11.64
    EDIT:Here is a screenshot from the site
    http://www.abload.de/img/wetterportugalyt7iz.jpg

    Yes, it's the weather map. Strangely, it doesn't load on my side. I already tried a clean Flash installation as well as clean installations of Opera 11.64 and any 12.00 builds, all to no avail. That's why I reported it as DSK-364912.

    Originally posted by krishna8:

    the page works fine here....

    Thanks, it must be something really odd occurring on my side. If it's a bug in Opera that also occurs to certain users and not others, let's hope that the Desktop Team can track it down and provide a fix soon. :wink:
  • Ryan MorilloWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:17:43 PM

    If you rip a tab off that was a popup from another page, you can't edit either (i.e. you can't enter anything in a textarea and you can't edit the addressbar) until you put the tab back on the browser. This ONLY happens with a popup connected to a page in a different window.

    I don't do it often, so I don't know when the bug came in, or if it's always been there.

    Version
    12.00
    Build
    1467
    Platform
    Linux
    System
    x86_64, 3.2.0-1-amd64
    Browser identification

    Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Edition Next; en) Presto/2.10.289 Version/12.00
  • xordaeWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:18:54 PM

    64-bit Opera will not show up in the 'Set your default programs' window in Windows 7 64-bit.

    The 'Details' button next to 'Check if Opera is the default browser' does not work on 64-bit Opera either.
  • road-foxWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:20:12 PM

    I can't search with Google. Here a screenshoot: http://my.opera.com/road-fox/albums/show.dml?id=11988662
    If I press the "Enter key" after input my words to search, no reaction from Opera. Searches with Bing,... no problem.
    The favorit icon problem in the personal bookmark bar from Opera 11.** is also in Opera 12 present:
    http://my.opera.com/road-fox/albums/show.dml?id=8762222
    The favorit icons disappear sporadically.

    Opera 12.00-64bit RC6
    Win7/64 SP1
  • bEN ENGLISCHWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:28:50 PM

    I'm having an issue with dragging and dropping files with spaces in their names. To demonstrate:

    1. Go to http://www.imgur.com
    2. Drag a file from your computer with a space in its name ("hello world.jpg") onto the site
    3. Say "Yes" to dialog
    4. Notice that imgur now places the filename "hello%20world.jpg" on the site
    5. Click "Start Upload" and observe that it fails, most likely because "hello%20world.jpg" != "hello world.jpg"

    I'm on OS X 10.6.8, Opera 12 RC6
  • rsdsoftWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:29:03 PM

    Old bug: when drag the tab to another Opera window - Opera crashed.
    Windows 7 32bit
  • SF81Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:29:09 PM

    Opera doesn't remember the size of the last restored tab. This is an old problem. Please, correct it; it's really annoying. (The ability of -minimizing, maximizing- restoring tabs is one of my top favorite features of Opera!!!)

    When I launch Opera, the password manager lost the focus and it gets behind the main window.
  • AmundWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:29:58 PM

    Image tearing at http://www.tek.no/ has not been present before as far as I know. Have always been interested in the scrolling performance, so I usually do these kind of tests.

    Only thing I have that is special is blocked content on the page. Tried to remove the blocking and refresh, but the content was still blocked :right:

    Reproduce: heavy scrolling using mouse wheel while the pointer is placed in the white space (margin) on the left side. Then slowly scroll to the top. Perhaps it is necessary to block the commercials on top?
  • FulerenicWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:31:01 PM

    Guys, please - do you know, what does it mean RC version? Why so much RCs in so short time? This is my understanding of software versions:
    Alpha - we want show you our new version, maybe we will add some functions, don't expect stability
    Beta - no more functions will be added, there are still some bugs
    RC - we want to release program, does anyone found some bugs or we can release Final?

    In fact, you have tons of RCs, which behaves like Beta. :doh:
  • André TorgaWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:31:46 PM

    As a follow-up to my posts about DSK-364912, here are screenshots I just took of the site in Opera 11.64 and 12.00 build 1467 x64:

    - 11.64: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8033581/Opera1164_PortugueseWeatherInstituteMap_FailsLoading.JPG
    - 12.00: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8033581/Opera12_PortugueseWeatherInstituteMap_FailsLoading.JPG

    The plugin wrapper does have a process consuming nothing more than 6 MiB but Flash Player is somehow unable to load the weather map within Opera.

    Originally posted by Fulerenic:

    Guys, please - do you know, what does it mean RC version? Why so much RCs in so short time? This is my understanding of software versions:
    Alpha - we want show you our new version, maybe we will add some functions, don't expect stability
    Beta - no more functions will be added, there are still some bugs
    RC - we want to release program, does anyone found some bugs or we can release Final?

    In fact, you have tons of RCs, which behaves like Beta. :doh:

    I have to agree with you here. Why not deliver post-RC snapshots as Opera Next releases only and then release a second RC to see if it's finally good to go? If so, then relaunch that RC2 as a final release. Makes more sense.
  • CryioWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:35:37 PM

    So....this RC just broke the funtionality of downloading torrents. I tried downloading something from http://filelist.ro and when I clicked to download a torrent, the browser freaked out and started making tens of blank pages, in the end resulting with the error "No registered application for this extension". What extension? I must say that I had enabled in Preferences->Downloads->torrent for Opera to use Utorrent as default application. So why is this happening?
  • highstreamWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:36:05 PM

    Originally posted by xordae:

    64-bit Opera will not show up in the 'Set your default programs' window in Windows 7 64-bit.

    The 'Details' button next to 'Check if Opera is the default browser' does not work on 64-bit Opera either.


    Opera staff, does this need to be reported as a bug? I've reported the same thing on the blog a few times, starting with RC1, but have assumed it would be worked out by the final, possibly being tested before then by users willing to risk it.
  • CryioWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:36:28 PM

    Sputnikmusic is still broken. If all the other browsers, Firefox, Chrome, Maxthon cand render it correctly, why couldn't Opera?
  • André TorgaWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:42:17 PM

    Originally posted by highstream:

    Originally posted by xordae:

    64-bit Opera will not show up in the 'Set your default programs' window in Windows 7 64-bit.

    The 'Details' button next to 'Check if Opera is the default browser' does not work on 64-bit Opera either.


    Opera staff, does this need to be reported as a bug? I've reported the same thing on the blog a few times, starting with RC1, but have assumed it would be worked out by the final, possibly being tested before then by users willing to risk it.
    What kind of installation are you guys using? Regular (non-portable) or standalone (portable)?

    Originally posted by Acryion:

    Sputnikmusic is still broken. If all the other browsers, Firefox, Chrome, Maxthon cand render it correctly, why couldn't Opera?

    It has been replied to you multiple times that the site is broken by design, so the fact that other browsers appear to load it properly is rather a question of better guessing on their part regarding what the web developers wanted to do with the code than rendering proper, standard code.
  • berend ytsmaWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:45:58 PM

    Originally posted by Acryion:

    Sputnikmusic is still broken. If all the other browsers, Firefox, Chrome, Maxthon cand render it correctly, why couldn't Opera?

    Opera seems to render it correct according to
    the other browsers are rendering it wrong
  • udedenkzWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:53:24 PM

    Flash Laggs while opening tabs in BG
    Flash should not lagg while opening tabs in BG
  • D1sasterp1eceWednesday, June 13, 2012 3:55:25 PM

    Originally posted by Fulerenic:

    Guys, please - do you know, what does it mean RC version? Why so much RCs in so short time? This is my understanding of software versions:
    Alpha - we want show you our new version, maybe we will add some functions, don't expect stability
    Beta - no more functions will be added, there are still some bugs
    RC - we want to release program, does anyone found some bugs or we can release Final?

    In fact, you have tons of RCs, which behaves like Beta. :doh:

    /offtopic: Releasing an RC after an RC suggests that a final release is somewhere close. But it shouldn't be final with so many bugs (look at the comments...)
  • CryioWednesday, June 13, 2012 4:00:57 PM

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    Originally posted by Acryion:

    Sputnikmusic is still broken. If all the other browsers, Firefox, Chrome, Maxthon cand render it correctly, why couldn't Opera?


    Opera seems to render it correct according to


    the other browsers are rendering it wrong
    Honestly, I thought like that too for a while. I said maybe it was Chrome's, Firefox's and Maxthon's fault. But after vs12 RC1 broke the review's text alignment, I knew it was a problem with Opera. By the way, "articles" are ment to be aligned to the left. And there should be spaces between paragraphs. I know because I recently took some tests in preparation for the Cambridge exam :bigsmile: so...
  • logytechWednesday, June 13, 2012 4:15:28 PM

    yesss... at last finale version...

    i hope the next release will be legend... wait for it, ... dary bro!:up:
  • praetor87Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:24:11 PM

    Originally posted by karolp:

    You'll get that error in IE



    In ie8 it work properly.
  • Cristian SecarăWednesday, June 13, 2012 4:38:10 PM

    Originally posted by xordae:

    64-bit Opera will not show up in the 'Set your default programs' window in Windows 7 64-bit.

    The 'Details' button next to 'Check if Opera is the default browser' does not work on 64-bit Opera either.


    Strange, on Vista 64 bit (Ultimate) Opera shows in default programs, also Details... button works as it should.

    Cristi
  • SF81Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:38:54 PM

    By the way, Opera doesn't render webfonts correctly in Google Webfonts. Non standard characters (ñ, ¿?, @#€) are missing. Please, take a look at this image to see a comparative between Opera and Firefox.

  • KalinbaWednesday, June 13, 2012 4:40:57 PM

    Until 1. Facebook and 2. Gmail work absolutely flawlessly, lots of users (including me - a die-hard opera fan) will not even consider changing.

    I still reiterate: Facebook is better in this release but still sluggish...and GMAIL is slow slow slow.

    Chrome flies in both of those sites.

    Follow my suggestion: Get the TOP 10 INTERNET TRAFFIC WEBSITES and make them work ABSOLUTELY fast and flawlessly and then you will have a shot.
  • andrewzWednesday, June 13, 2012 4:55:43 PM

    Originally posted by Fulerenic:

    Guys, please - do you know, what does it mean RC version? Why so much RCs in so short time? This is my understanding of software versions:
    Alpha - we want show you our new version, maybe we will add some functions, don't expect stability
    Beta - no more functions will be added, there are still some bugs. RC - we want to release program, does anyone found some bugs or we can release Final? In fact, you have tons of RCs, which behaves like Beta. :doh:

    Confirmed! No, really, if you release this as final, it would be the worst final version in years. Mainly flash plugin crashes are intolerable.

    http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5121/operacommentmanager.png -
  • Samed AyanWednesday, June 13, 2012 5:00:31 PM

    :sherlock:
  • Charles SchlossWednesday, June 13, 2012 5:01:05 PM

    Originally posted by andrewz1986:

    Mainly flash plugin crashes are intolerable


    Make sure flash player is updated and the plug in is not currupted
  • udedenkzWednesday, June 13, 2012 5:03:09 PM

    Sometimes I cannot interact with the Flash plugin, for no apparently good reason.
    I keep clicking on it, but no response or the response is delayed - the page may also lack responsiveness.

    If anything Opera 12 is Opera 11 with major responsiveness issues and more bugs - this is not RC quality.
  • KamaleshWednesday, June 13, 2012 5:06:53 PM

    The "Make It So" image sizer addon broke a couple builds ago. Works in 11.6x.
    (OSX Lion)

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