Tunny Release Candidate

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

• Christophchristoph142Friday, December 2, 2011 11:17:32 AM

  Nice! Thanks
  
  Two little annotations:
  
  1st) The previous snapshot just started crashing on every startup. It was - again - only fixable by choosing compatibility mode for WinXP. Checking if the RC behaves better...
  
  2nd) I love the slimmer address bar and getting rid of the Windows Native skin surely is a good decision. However, since this is the only skin available in Windows now, it shouldn't look unfinished. I'm sorry for complaining about visual glitches - again and in spite of your comment in the post - but could you fix that difference in height above and below the address bar?
  
  (If you'd reduce that space to 1 or 2 pixels, it would be even better (and more featherweight )
  
  Win8DevP x64

• marbrossFriday, December 2, 2011 11:19:32 AM

  Fast

• Daniel15daniel15Friday, December 2, 2011 11:20:34 AM

  Looking forward to the final release!

• sergiolFriday, December 2, 2011 11:25:14 AM

  Hoping that the next Opera 12 (Wahoo) snapshot has native Auto-complete.

• DennisDennis87Friday, December 2, 2011 11:32:12 AM

  What have happen with the address bar search. Before with opera 11.50? when writing in the address bar, it did show your bookmarks first. But now its showing all the sites i have been visiting before my bookmarks??

• ohyeahgodFriday, December 2, 2011 11:34:15 AM

  Everything is looking GOOD. EXCEPT, Opera is still hogging my CPU, I open about 10 tabs,
  my Mem Usage is about over 1M (1,000,000 K),
  and that makes my PF Usage more than 3 GB,
  My CPU Usage over 50%
  
  That's very HUGE. When I close Opera (Completely) in Task Manager. My PF Usage goes down to about 0.5 GB,
  My CPU Usage is about 2-4% only.
  
  FYI, I installed Opera 3 versions on my PC, version 9, 11.6x. 12.x.
  
  While I open about 50 tabs, version 9 just use Very Low on Mem Usage, PF Usage & CPU Usage. While verion 11.6x & 12.x Give me really High (just 10 tabs only) as I've described in the 2 above Paragraphs.
  
  I hope OPERA TEAM could make the new version not that HIGH resources HOGGING. That would make Opera the best browser ever.
  
  
  BTW, My CPU is Core I7 930 @3.80GHz (Overclocked), 3GB of RAM (can't use more than 3GB of RAM as I'm using Win 32bits)
  My Windows is Windows XP Professional SP3
  
  Thank very much Opera Team.

• MossManFriday, December 2, 2011 11:35:07 AM

  DSK-348870 [Win] Remove Windows Native skin

  
  
  Ah well... I saw that coming - even said so a few builds ago.
  
  Glad to see that my named bookmarks will actually appear in the address drop-down again!
  
  Now to check if the threading issues are finally fixed...

• Obese MauriceObeseMauriceFriday, December 2, 2011 11:35:40 AM

  Woohooo!

• MaximSailorMaxFriday, December 2, 2011 11:37:17 AM

  Current standard skin has very similar colors of active and inactive tabs under no aero Windows when tab placement is bottom, left or right. I sent bugreport, but looks like 11.60 will be with this problem...

• ComwanFriday, December 2, 2011 11:44:11 AM

  What several people doesn't seem to understand is that this is a Release Candidate, so ONLY report problems that makes websites unusable!
  
  NO small issues! Those won't be fixed for this version so save it for the next blog post.

• MaximSailorMaxFriday, December 2, 2011 11:46:59 AM

  Globe-icon has different sizes on inactive badge and on pushed badge. Bug?

• MaximSailorMaxFriday, December 2, 2011 11:49:41 AM

  2Comwan: We already have 3 RC builds and in the latest RC we have skin changes... All rules have exceptions

• ComwanFriday, December 2, 2011 11:52:49 AM

  @Maxim: No we only have had one so far. Read the blog post: "This is the first Opera 11.60 (Tunny) Release Candidate."
  
  Btw, I am having weird stuttering issues with this build. Once in a while when I scroll it stops for a second and then it continues the scrolling. Just bad performance in this build!

• jeanreisFriday, December 2, 2011 11:58:49 AM

  DSK-351852 (most pages from http://www.imovirtual.com/ do not load) is still present.

• GeneGeneValgeneFriday, December 2, 2011 12:01:49 PM

  composing and replying in GMail is still broken. the font defaults to ultra-tiny...have to manually change the font size to 'normal' each time in the editor.
  
  i consider this a critical bug, because writing emails in GMail should be a basic function that can't be compromised. this bug was also reported by user LinqiDale on the opera desktop team blog under the 1180 comment thread, and by user NedTheNanite on the opera forums.
  
  discussed somewhat here:
  http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1142052&t=1322827051&page=1#comment10777482

• RijkFriday, December 2, 2011 12:03:25 PM

  Originally posted by SailorMax:

  Globe-icon has different sizes on inactive badge and on pushed badge. Bug?

  I think that's on purpose, to make it look 'pressed in'.
  

• marcel80Friday, December 2, 2011 12:05:38 PM

  Since 10.60, mozplugger does not work in Linux anymore.
  I am using mozplugger (+okular/acroread - it does not matter which app I configured to display the pdfs) to display pdfs.
  Mozplugger worked fine in Opera 10.50 and still works in Firefox.
  Flash and Java plugin work without problems.
  
  The mozplugger plugin is listed in about:plugins. Also, the pdf is correctly downloaded (I checked with wireshark).
  
  Using Debian Wheezy on amd64, mozplugger 1.14.3. I am running KDE 4.7 (same problem with KDE 4.6.5 that comes with wheezy).

• Fr0sTFriday, December 2, 2011 12:10:02 PM

  Nice to see address bar dropdown list fixes but it's new manner is really a regression since 11.52.
  Other fixes seem pretty cool, nice job guys!

• FluxidFriday, December 2, 2011 12:11:35 PM

  Uh, is it me or linux/freebsd packages are from last snapshot? Shouldn't build number be higher than 1180?

• XombiemubaidrFriday, December 2, 2011 12:17:28 PM

  1: Password manager bar that appears on top, has last option [x Done]. I think it should be [x] just! Please have a look.
  
  2: Scrolling on gmail is still very slow and choppy and eats 50% of cpu (3.60 Dual core)
  
  :Optional: Please reduce padding size below address bar!
  
  Opera 11.60
  Windows 7
  Amd 5750
  
  Good luck for Opera 11.60 Release!

• bEuweFriday, December 2, 2011 12:17:52 PM

  Originally posted by jeanreis:

  DSK-351852 (most pages from http://www.imovirtual.com/ do not load) is still present.

  Tried 20+ pages, all loaded smoothly and fully. Can not reproduce. Using Win 7, 11.60 RC.
  

• jeanreisFriday, December 2, 2011 12:18:06 PM

  Originally posted by Fluxid:

  Uh, is it me or linux/freebsd packages are from last snapshot? Shouldn't build number be higher than 1180?

  
  Windows build is still 1180 as well.

• PraetorianXFriday, December 2, 2011 12:19:09 PM

  Originally posted by Fluxid:

  Uh, is it me or linux/freebsd packages are from last snapshot? Shouldn't build number be higher than 1180?

  
  Linux package was build 1181 for me.

• max1cFriday, December 2, 2011 12:19:15 PM

  Ok, both cnet.com and theverge.com still lagging on scroll. This is absolutely unacceptable, things like this should be a top priority. From what I understand this fix is clearly not coming to 11.60 final which is a major disappointment...

• jeanreisFriday, December 2, 2011 12:19:34 PM

  Originally posted by bEuwe:

  Originally posted by jeanreis:

  DSK-351852 (most pages from http://www.imovirtual.com/" target="_blank">http://www.imovirtual.com/ do not load) is still present.

  Tried 20+ pages, all loaded smoothly and fully. Can not reproduce. Using Win 7, 11.60 RC.
  

  Strange... Thanks for confirming that. I'll try in another computer (and under linux as well).

• igorigor2209Friday, December 2, 2011 12:19:48 PM

  Is there a way to return search in address bar as it was in 11.5 ? ( I mean first come bookmarks , after that last visited pages and not as it is today ) ?
  
  It is much more likely , that I'd search there for bookmark , then pages that I've visited , cause I saw them already.
  
  Nicknames for bookmarks became almost useless !

• sgraphicsFriday, December 2, 2011 12:21:15 PM

  I have to report that the new web apps out there are very slow compared to Chrome. For example GMail or facebook or new YouTube. Scrolling, clicking around, everything. If this stays as it is I cannot use Opera any more - these sites are what I constantly open and check

• Satan D. LucifersupertrolFriday, December 2, 2011 12:22:29 PM

  i for one like the new slimmer addressbar and search field
  
  really good looking in windows
  
  GJ guys..really hope for more skin fixes before final.

• SteveKongFriday, December 2, 2011 12:24:00 PM

  [Mac OS X 10.6.8]
  - Widgets installed under 11.5x still crash on startup. (Several chrashlogs submitted) - This is a regression
  - Opera forgets already accepted again. I seemed to be gone two snapshots ago. (Reported Opera bug DSK-351447) - No regression

• MichałEmdekFriday, December 2, 2011 12:24:04 PM

  Originally posted by SailorMax:

  Current standard skin has very similar colors of active and inactive tabs under no aero Windows when tab placement is bottom, left or right.

  
  Also in KDE style (but active tab should look different anyway, not only other color)...
  
  So, other regressions:
  - message zoom not preserved in M2 when switching between them;
  - zoom slider changes message zoom, but is not updated when zooming using Ctrl + mouse wheel;
  - lack of favicons in address field dropdown is also regression (for sure not improvement).

• pursanovdFriday, December 2, 2011 12:25:21 PM

  If you press "down" in the addressbar and start to walk on history items-icon of page information(WEB, SECURE, etc)-disappears.
  Windows 7 x64.

• BrianstormFriday, December 2, 2011 12:29:40 PM

  skinny and ugly. icons not centered at all

• minhoFriday, December 2, 2011 12:34:47 PM

  Is bad scrolling performance not a critical issue that could potentially block the release? I think so.

• MichielblackwidowFriday, December 2, 2011 12:37:06 PM

  When I exited I had received a c++ error, didn't know it was opera until the last pop-up, so I didn't save it somewhere.
  
  And the address bar is really thin??
  
  XP SP3
  Opera 1181

• HaavardhaavardFriday, December 2, 2011 12:39:17 PM

  Originally posted by GeneValgene:

  composing and replying in GMail is still broken. the font defaults to ultra-tiny...have to manually change the font size to 'normal' each time in the editor.

  It seems that this has been the case for quite some time now (July?), so I'm not sure it is very noticeable to most people.

• MossManFriday, December 2, 2011 12:42:43 PM

  Originally posted by max1c:

  Ok, both cnet.com and theverge.com still lagging on scroll. This is absolutely unacceptable,

  
  
  There's a bit of jitter, but for such crappy layouts I'm not surprised. Hardly "unacceptable"!

• HaavardhaavardFriday, December 2, 2011 12:44:04 PM

  Originally posted by max1c:

  Ok, both cnet.com and theverge.com still lagging on scroll. This is absolutely unacceptable, things like this should be a top priority. From what I understand this fix is clearly not coming to 11.60 final which is a major disappointment...

  I think it goes without saying that 11.60 is not going to be delayed when the problem also affects 11.5x.
  
  Delaying 11.60 because of this will be of no benefit because it won't get it fixed any sooner, while delaying the new HTML5 parser, JavaScript 5.1 support, etc. will definitely have a negative impact.

• earth01Friday, December 2, 2011 12:50:55 PM

  About standard skin, I showed how to fix 3 bugs here :
  http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/11/29/another-ragnarok-update?startidx=100#comment75938972
  (and for more precision here : http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/11/29/another-ragnarok-update?startidx=100#comment75944962 )
  
  It is very easy to fix since I have already made the work for you
  
  _____
  The browser is nearly perfect now (expect for one or two bugs that still remain).
  
  Good job !

• CrabmanFriday, December 2, 2011 12:51:49 PM

  Originally posted by Rijk:

  Originally posted by SailorMax:

  Globe-icon has different sizes on inactive badge and on pushed badge. Bug?

  I think that's on purpose, to make it look 'pressed in'.

  
  
  But it only gets smaller after I release the mousebutton, not when I first click the badge.
  
  And why is the address bar now so small while the padding around it didn't get reduced? Doesn't save space or anything. The size before was good, you should have just reduced the padding as fas as possible,

• SCRAMsequenceFriday, December 2, 2011 12:52:35 PM

  Haavard, Rijk, anyone, what about fixing the scrolling issue in the mail client? I've reported this many times so far (others have too). Please, please fix it! I'm begging you! For me it's a real deal-breaker since it's EXTREMELY inconvenient to browse through new feeds and emails. Once again, please fix this.
  
  FYI this is a regression from 11.52.

• krychu90Friday, December 2, 2011 12:53:24 PM

  Still Address bar drop-down list bug:

• HaavardhaavardFriday, December 2, 2011 12:54:45 PM

  Originally posted by SCRAMsequence:

  Haavard, Rijk, anyone, what about fixing the scrolling issue in the mail client?

  Please try to be more descriptive when reporting problems. You can't really expect people to know what you mean by "scrolling issue".

• simgorFriday, December 2, 2011 12:57:13 PM

  still doesn't display chess translations from
  
  http://whychess.org/ru/live_ru
  
  (displays no chess board and empty list in "select round" field - may be it's real couse of issue)

• DeathamnsFriday, December 2, 2011 1:02:17 PM

  Please, take a look at this.
  I'm suffering from this since this snapshot (Opera-Next-12.00-1076) came out. Every 7-8th page I visit is unresponsive until the content loads.
  The piece of code I presented is extracted from the extensions Ghostery and Textarea resizer. So, if someone has these two extensions installed, probably they experience the problem too.
  There is no such a problem in 11.52.

• P2O2Friday, December 2, 2011 1:09:57 PM

  [Regression issue]
  
  Copied from 11.60.1180 thread and updated with results concerning Opera 11.60.1181.
  
  The freezes are still present!
  
  

  Originally posted by P2O2:

  Hi,
  
  Debian Squeeze 64bit
  Kernel x86_64, 3.1.3-030103-generic
  
  Opera 11.60.1147
  Opera 11.60.1178
  Opera 11.60.1180
  
  Flash x68_64 for Linux:
  Flash 11.1 d102 (latest stable)
  Flash 11.2 d202 (beta)
  
  System tested on page: http://przedszkole102krakow.pl/vid_wyd_arz.html
  
  Closing Tab with Flash JWPlayer __freezes__ Opera.
  
  1. Open website
  2. Play first video
  3. After 2-3 s stop it
  4. Then close tab
  5. Opera freezes
  
  Opera 11.52.1100 works with both Flash versions.
  
  Opera 11.60.48/78 worked with Flash 11.0 r1 x86_64 for Linux but I removed this Flash and didn't find it in Internet so I wasn't able to test the old configuration. Probably worked as everything went smoothly but I didn't test the aforementioned sequence on the website.
  
  Regards
  

  
  
  Hi,
  
  I have found the deleted Flash driver (11.0.1.152 aka 11.0 r1) here:
  http://www.instalki.pl/programy/download/Linux/wtyczki/Adobe_Flash_Player_dla_Linux.html
  
  Alas, it doesn't work with Opera 11.60.xxxx - it freezes Opera when closing a tab with downloaded flash in background.
  
  It works only with Opera stable version 11.52.
  
  I tried to run older Flash 10.0.45.2 (10.0 r45) with the same results.
  
  Recap:
  ======
  Only Opera 11.52 does not freeze using the following Flash x68_64 for Linux drivers:
  
  10.0.45.2 (10.0 r45)
  11.0.1.152 (11.0 r1)
  11.1.d102 (stable)
  11.2.d202 (beta)
  
  I repeat - all Opera 11.60.xxxx freezes with the above four versions of Flash drivers when closing a tab with downloaded flash in background on my rig and with the testing website.
  
  Regards
  
  P.S. That's the same problem as described by
  Daniel(DD64) # Friday, December 2, 2011 2:15:46 PM
  below on the list. Namely:
  
  "(...)_before_ the video/player has been "initialized"(...)"
  
  

• SCRAMsequenceFriday, December 2, 2011 1:14:12 PM

  Moderator edit: ToS violation removed from comment. Further abuse will result in a ban.
  
  

  Originally posted by haavard:

  Please try to be more descriptive when reporting problems. You can't really expect people to know what you mean by "scrolling issue".

  
  So, to the problem (I've copied the following from one of my comments to a previous post):
  Although moving the scroll wheel in my mouse by one notch up/down should scroll the lists of emails/feeds by 6 lines, Opera scrolls them by more than that number of lines. I have to use the scroll bar, which is inconvenient. It's baffling because this problem was not present in version 11.5x.
  
  Graphical explanation:
  
  Feed 1
  Feed 2
  Feed 3
  Feed 4
  Feed 5
  Feed 6
  Feed 7
  Feed 8
  Feed 9
  Feed 10
  Feed 11
  Feed 12
  
  In my case, I adjusted the height of the list of emails/feeds to 6 lines, therefore, without scrolling the list down I see only Feeds 1-6. However, when I scroll down by one notch, I should see Feeds 7-12. But in Opera 11.60 as well as 12.00 I don't. I see further items in the list.
  
  See the screenshots:
  This is the top of the list:
  
  
  This is when I scroll one notch down:
  
  
  This is what I SHOULD see:
  
  
  Win Vista 64bit SP2 as well as Win XP SP3 32bit

• the-bolkFriday, December 2, 2011 1:14:22 PM

  Crash on http://zalil.ru/32182123 (automatically download in 10 sec)

• gensanFriday, December 2, 2011 1:15:11 PM

  still on vector linux 7.0 std gold, running "./opera" , japanese can't be displayed correctly, in blured mass always, no change

• DanielDD64Friday, December 2, 2011 1:15:46 PM

  Opera freezes when closing a Tab in which a Youtube-WebM-Video is being initialized.
  
  Reproduce:
  (- (Re)start Opera)
  - Open a video on Youtube (HTML5-Mode enabled)
  - Close that tab _before_ the video/player has been "initialized" (you have to be really fast).
  - Opera will freeze
  
  In my opinion, that's a major bug.

• LeedeRFriday, December 2, 2011 1:16:11 PM

  Hi, check this, please. Tahoma font (ttf copied from Windows XP) on linux (Fedora 13 64bit) machine, no problem in Opera 11.5*, no problem in FF/Chrome.
  
  http://files.myopera.com/LeedeR/files/Screenshot.png
  
  
  Plus veeeeerrrryyy slow rendering pages with larger HTML tables (phpmyadmin for example), Opera is not useable with these.