♥ UNIX ♥

September 16, 2010 · by Tommy A. Olsen

Another round of UNIX fixes have been integrated in 10.70. Lots of love here, especially for those who select text to paste it with middle click.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog

DSK-309591 (Opera crashes when running windowless plugins)
DSK-298758 (Drag and drop can hang after a drop (normally on a speed dial page))
DSK-307702 (Importing Firefox bookmarks freezes Opera )
DSK-303190 (Mouse selection doesn't copy to clipboard)
DSK-309128 (window.print() doesn't work in evenes)
DSK-306361 (Popup menus are poorly styled in GTK)
DSK-281352 (Import Firefox bookmarks file filter is broken in KDE)
DSK-310754 (Opera has no title in the ctwm window manager)
DSK-310375 (Opera has no icon in the twm or ctwm window managers)
DSK-309980 (X11 toolkit mode popup menu items should have a solid background color when selected)
DSK-309777 (Native skin elements aren't freed)
DSK-309984 (Focus cleanup)
DSK-309985 (Chat room subscription dialog opens underneath parent dialog)
DSK-311015 (Font configuration dialog is not activated properly)
DSK-309241 (Menus are as high as the screen and nearly empty in Gnome < 2.10)
DSK-308373 (Use xdg-open as handler for unknown files when not running in Gnome or KDE)

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

K4R416. September 2010, 12:43
1st
exterminans16. September 2010, 12:54
Yay Unix! Thanks for the text selection fix.
z@h3k16. September 2010, 12:55
Gereford16. September 2010, 12:57
Wow!! Thx
Trizen16. September 2010, 12:59
Thanks! We love Unix fixes!
marcorion16. September 2010, 13:06
Mouse back/forward buttons still broken on Windows.
marbross16. September 2010, 13:06
Thank
neuhaus4416. September 2010, 13:09
Thanks, middle click works!
But when I paste text into edit box on page, Opera try to find inserted text on Google.
Penge16. September 2010, 13:09
No changes in the Windows build?
Daniel Aleksandersen16. September 2010, 13:11
No changes on the other platforms, no. Though new problems could have been introduced by the *nix bug fixes. You never know. (The general idea, is no changes.)
Tommy A. Olsen16. September 2010, 13:12
@neuhaus44: Which page does this happen on?

@Penge: No, but some of the UNIX fixes touch on cross platform code, so we'd appreciate it if you use this build anyway.
omnivox16. September 2010, 13:15
The fact that F2 now opens a new page in the active tab is very annoying. At least there should be an option to change this behaviour back to how it was before all those years. I know that Ctrl+Enter will open a new tab, but that doesn't work when selecting an address from the dropdown (enter a partial address, select the complete one from the appearing dropdown and see what happens).
Tommy A. Olsen16. September 2010, 13:16
@omnivox: This is fixed internally, awaiting testing and integration into mainline.
Яскевич Кирилл16. September 2010, 13:18
After build 9044 sorting mode of mail letters after restart isn't remembered. RSS work fine
Heath Rowell16. September 2010, 13:22
I don't use Unix, but anyway!
donny8516. September 2010, 13:26
WOW!!! Thanks!
evgen16. September 2010, 13:26
>>DSK-303190 (Mouse selection doesn't copy to clipboard)
cool!
rudl16. September 2010, 13:30
Awesome
Robert9016. September 2010, 13:32
What a development/snapshot release speed. Is something big coming and you want to fix some small/annoying bugs first? (so there is no nagging about developing new features but leaving old bugs in)
GREY16. September 2010, 13:33
New regression. Now Opera doesn't work properly with saved kwin settings like "no window decoration". After this release I can have main window of Opera without window decoration and all dialog window with decoration. Now I have all with decoration or all without decoration.
cucule16. September 2010, 13:34
like navigation buttons mouse will never earn.........
5silentrain16. September 2010, 13:36
How about this? This feature has long been in the Google Chrome!
sebt16. September 2010, 13:37
Nice

Still leaking memory and getting stuck into using X% (say 25%) CPU far too often. I find when using the Joomla administrator back-end (which uses a fair amount of JS) just working with it for 30 minutes Opera is using over 1G of memory (on my 1.5G laptop).

Good to see these improvements, but it would be great to see the core problems fixed.

Seb
nimu_chan16. September 2010, 13:40
Oh Nice Thanks
Penge16. September 2010, 13:42
Originally posted by toman:

@Penge: No, but some of the UNIX fixes touch on cross platform code, so we'd appreciate it if you use this build anyway.

Thanks! The mouse selection seems like fixed also on Windows.

Originally posted by 5silentrain:

How about this? This feature has long been in the Google Chrome!

http://my.opera.com/xErath/blog/2008/06/25/meet-meenoo-and-drag
5silentrain16. September 2010, 13:42
Also wanted to check the spelling in such fields:
sebt16. September 2010, 13:43
When wheel scrolling when in vBulletin forums with tooltips enabled, the tooltips are not erasing. This bug has existed for the last number of 10.6/7 builds.

Dragging tabs around has an annoying delay while Opera is activating the tab first. Any way to change that?

Seb
Patkos Csaba16. September 2010, 13:45
great ... installing
5silentrain16. September 2010, 13:45
Originally posted by Penge4:

http://my.opera.com/xErath/blog/2008/06/25/meet-meenoo-and-drag

I want built-in support, like in Chrome!!!
Witold Baryluk16. September 2010, 13:51
@5silentrain
Most of what you want can be done using UserJS plugins. Search for them. For Opera suggestions there is a link to the forum on the right.
mulB16. September 2010, 13:53
I get black lines across some images.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2j5bvl.jpg

Preferences - Webpages - Page zoom - is set to 150%.
Fit to width - is not checked.

Win7 64bit

Is that a bug or my fault? Any help?
Thanx!
Joonas Lehtolahti16. September 2010, 13:59
Thanks for including some X11 toolkit specific fixes too!

I just noticed this: when you only subscribe to a news feed and do not have any mail accounts, the Mail panel has two buttons: "Update All" and "Manage Feeds...".

However, once a mail account is added, the buttons change to be "Check/Send", "Compose", "Search" and "View" regardless on if you are reading mail or feeds. I just noticed it with this latest build, although it seems to apply to previous builds with the new Mail panel as well.

Manage Feeds is still accessible from the context menu of Feeds category, but Update All is not, and it is not even listed in the Buttons tab of Appearance dialog either.

Also, when I closed Opera, it asked me to do mail database maintenance even though it only had the one news feed added for testing. The dialog box, however, asking whether to do the maintenance or not had choices "OK" and "Cancel". IMO the choices should be "Yes" and "No", since "Cancel" would imply not performing the user-initiated operation which in this case is closing Opera.
James Le Cuirot16. September 2010, 13:59
Thanks for the middle click fix, that was driving me nuts.
5silentrain16. September 2010, 14:05
Originally posted by movax:

Most of what you want can be done using UserJS plugins. Search for them. For Opera suggestions there is a link to the forum on the right.

I know. But UserJS often buggy and incompatible with new versions of Opera. It would be built-in support initially!
Linu7416. September 2010, 14:19
Testing
xeon054116. September 2010, 14:22
crash on yahoo mail
GREY16. September 2010, 14:25
Next one regression. Wrong aspect ratio in fullscreen mode in youtube flash player.

http://img.nopaste.pl/upload/wrong_aspect_ratio_4c92287519e31.jpg
iPristy16. September 2010, 14:29
Timer clock is out of frame on this site and no music: http://www.agent8ball.com/
neuhaus4416. September 2010, 14:46
Originally posted by toman:

@neuhaus44: Which page does this happen on?

It seems, any page.
My default search engine is Goggle. I go to yahoo.com and middle click into Yahoo search edit box -> Opera goes to Goggle.
Gousti Fruit16. September 2010, 14:48
Originally posted by 5silentrain:

I want built-in support, like in Chrome!!!

Sure it's easier to ask Opera to include the few missing features that it may be lacking compared to Chrome, than to use Chrome and ask Google to include all those features Chrome is lacking compared to Opera !
Anil16. September 2010, 14:48
Help me guys!! I installed this build. No error.
BUT CANT browse. For all sites, this is what I get.

Could not locate remote server

I can broowse with all other browsers without problem!!
I am on fedora 13 64 bit.
sleepyhead16. September 2010, 15:01
Originally posted by xeon0541:

crash on yahoo mail
confirmed on XP SP3
cgbdx16. September 2010, 15:08
> DSK-307702 (Importing Firefox bookmarks freezes Opera )

I don't see much progress with this snapshot, when trying file/open or manage bookmarks/import from $foo, Opera locks the whole desktop for ~40-50 seconds before showing the file dialog.

or maybe DSK313725 is unrelated to this fix ?
Iamallen16. September 2010, 15:17
Crashed my computer!
Open this utube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNCXmAb0QM
Then clone it
Played another video while the above video was paused in the background
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVLLW68jWJ0

I did this twice with different songs and boom.

Not trying this again.

Tried again 8 hrs later, no problems, I did remember google ads trying to come up in
video window, Now there are no ads? Must of been the ad pop-up doing it.
Luchio16. September 2010, 15:18
Problem with menus in multi-screen X11 setups.

When I right-click at the very bottom (on my tab bar), the popup menu appear outside my screen 1. This worked in the past (I think it before the last big UNIX menu refactoring of 10.5).
Un1oR16. September 2010, 15:19
Yeah!
bvitnik16. September 2010, 15:27
Is fontconfig going to be supported on Linux in any foreseeable future? Supporting only Xrdb doesn't really do the job. Currently, it's impossible to turn off anti-aliasing for certain font sizes only (usualy small sizes, 6-12 pt), which was supported in Opera 10.10 using Qt. Small fonts look too blurry on CRT monitors when anti-aliased (especially in dialogs and menus) and big fonts look jagged when not anti-aliased.

Opera is currently the only program I use that doesn't honor my fontconfig (~/.fonts.conf) settings.
Tommy A. Olsen16. September 2010, 15:30
@cgbdx: Can't reproduce that bug here. How long have you had this?
Nicolas Troncoso16. September 2010, 15:31
+10000 thanks for fixing DSK-303190 (Mouse selection doesn't copy to clipboard)

Though it has a other quirk.
If you past on textfield in the browser, it interprets it as a link and tries to got to it. (as when you paste on any other part).

The expected behavior is that the text appears in the textfield
Tommy A. Olsen16. September 2010, 15:42
@neuhaus44: Indeed, this is a new regression in this build, probably related to the Focus cleanup or the mid-click fixes. The latter happened because of JS (onMouseUp/Down) interfering with the selection/copying of the text, not the middle-click though. Lets see. Thanks! (DSK-313761 btw)