Windows Beta Released and More!

February 11, 2010 · by Adam Minchinton

Desktop is proud to announce that Opera 10.5 for Windows is now in Beta!

Head on over to the Next Browser page to download a copy for yourself
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/

Note: Geolocation is disabled in the public Beta until we iron out the last details with our location provider. You can still test it and provide feedback from the snapshots.

This build is a new build, different from the Windows Beta RC so make sure you download it

Mac and UNIX Alpha

Don't worry Mac and UNIX fans we haven't forgotten about you with all the Windows work going on. We too have been working hard improving your favourite platform. So much so that these platforms are now well into their Alpha stages, and we are working hard to get to Beta as soon as possible.

Known Issues

Mac

No video support
Drag and drop support is less complete that in Peregrine
Quicktime plugin mouse events do not work as expected
Silverlight plugin does not work
Printing of forms and frames does not work
No Java support
Window behaviour is not correct for some pop-up windows
Flash is often painted in the wrong position

UNIX

Font support is less complete than in Peregrine
No drag and drop support
No printing support
No KDE integration
System colors are not retrieved from UI toolkit
Open/Save dialogs not available if neither KDE nor GTK is installed
Flash is often painted in the wrong position

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: it contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

Downloads

Mac (Intel) OS 10.5 or later
UNIX

Changelog

User Interface

Fixed DSK-273795 (RSS feeds preview does not work)
Fixed DSK-279091 (Link crashes in latest snapshot)
Fixed DSK-279018 (Bottom part of characters cut off in addressfield)
Fixed DSK-273374 (Separate skin state for unread tabs and notifications)
Fixed DSK-273373 (Combined back + forward button)
Fixed DSK-278500 (Tweaks to the O menu)
Fixed DSK-276712 ('Create search' icon on menu only appears in 'opera:config' )
Fixed DSK-279015 (Internal opera.css stylesheet missing from builds)
Fixed DSK-279366 (Toggling menu while using specific skin crashes opera)
Fixed DSK-279647 (Crash in appearance dialog)
Fixed DSK-273618 (Blocked popup notification is not displayed)
Fixed DSK-278885 (bookmarks show up as history in addressfield dropdown)

Core

Minor upgrade to Core and Carakan: fixing various rendering bugs and crashes

Mail

Fixed DSK-277488 (Mails lost on imap when deleting draft reply)

Unite

Tweaks to Pre-installed Unite Applications
Fixed DSK-279021 (Unable to install Unite applications)

Widgets

DSK-279044 (Widget Edit Field Context Menu crashes application after Spellcheck has been enabled)
DSK-276066 (Files are not removed if installation fails)
DSK-277335 (Password manager does not work)
DSK-277782 (Context Menu missing for Images and Links in Widgets)
DSK-277450 (widget control buttons don't change their position if changing widget size by script (not a zoom issue) )
DSK-276622 (Zooming widgets displays scrollbars)
DSK-279010 (Scrollbars do not appear for widgets in application mode)
DSK-176615 (Downloading widget fails if it's already in transfers list)

Mac

Keyboard and Opera Widgets fixes
Apple Events are back
Growl support fixed

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

Abhishek Thakur11. February 2010, 08:18
Keep up the good work Opera guys and gals.
Vectronic11. February 2010, 08:18
Y@Y
Ralf Demuth11. February 2010, 08:21
Cool, Mac is back!
Ishak Numanagic11. February 2010, 08:21
3rd!!!
Avola11. February 2010, 08:21
Ar1Pe11. February 2010, 08:25
Thanks
LLiam Garner11. February 2010, 08:26
Just installed it...

Same build number as Beta RC2.

So, if you have Opera_1050_3247 for Windows... it is the same as this b1 release.
Vygantas11. February 2010, 08:27
Same issues, so will report:

ctrl+t still opens in backgorund tab

when entering password and pressing enter, esc button stops page loading instead of canceling password save dialog.

all this ui change to no idea what is full of issues and there are no pros, interface is slow, buggy and does not work like it should.
Huib Kleinhout11. February 2010, 08:29
Originally posted by liga2r:

Just installed it...

Same build number as Beta RC2.

So, if you have Opera_1050_3247 for Windows... it is the same as this b1 release.

Try downloading again. 10.5 beta for Windows is a new build. :-)
PraetorianX11. February 2010, 08:31
Originally posted by DjiXas:

ctrl+t still opens in backgorund tab

Can't confirm. Works fine (opens foregroun tab) in Windows 7 x64
Pitiphong Phongpattranont11. February 2010, 08:32
Apple Events are back - What does it means?
René-Gilles Deberdt11. February 2010, 08:33
Same showstopper issues for me... (Windows XP RC3, 2GB Ram, about 60 tabs open, started the tab list from scratch from first installing the 10.50 pre-alpha, now keeping the tab list from update to update.)

- Ghost window when opening. I used to be able to get rid of it by either maximizing or minimizing all tabs (and/or changing the current skin to a native or non-native one), then restarting Opera. This no longer works. :-/

- Google Reader still fails to work. "This is taking longer than usual. Try reloading the page." No pre-alpha, alpha or beta version of 10.50 has ever been able to load my Google Reader page.

- Sometimes crashes even when I'm not on my computer.... And therefore not interacting with Opera at all I just come back to my computer, and see the Crash Report dialog box.

- The Developer Tools (Dragonfly) only work for the very first tab in the tab list. It won't work on any other tab, it will simply load and be set to the first tab.

- Sometimes, a random site (all of the tabs attached to that domain, including its subdomains) will tell me "Waiting for DNS confirmation of domain cookie" and stall forever. I have to restart and then it will work again just fine. This never happened in Opera 9.64.

I would appreciate if the Opera team could acknowledge these issues, or at least tell us that they're unable to reproduce them.

PS: many of the smaller issues are still there, too, but I don't mind them too much. Still, things such as "Go to web address" or "View source" when selecting some text won't work, for instance. I'll keep using v10.50 for now because it's so GOOD and still better than v9.64 which I'd been using for so long. If only it didn't crash and Google Reader could work...! I don't want to switch to another RSS reader...
Daniel Aleksandersen11. February 2010, 08:33
Mac users: I have written a short post about Growl notifications if you want to know more about them.
Vectronic11. February 2010, 08:34
Originally posted by liga2r:

it is the same as this b1 release.

Originally posted by huibk:

new build
3247, to 3248... Though, usually the Beta, is better than the snapshot anyways (occasionally worse) because a lot of the debugging code has been removed.
Yamaneko11. February 2010, 08:35
Ridiculous
Kai Ockendorf11. February 2010, 08:38
great!!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Pitiphong Phongpattranont11. February 2010, 08:38
Finally middle click comes back
still waiting for Hold right click and scroll
Teal_One11. February 2010, 08:39
Here are my pet bugs. Not to spam dev's but to get feedback from community: Can you confirm them (so I can fill a bug report)? Or are they already reported (give me the BugNumber please)?
Still my opinion that this is a Beta Show-Stopper:
Crash on several pages on Windows XP SP3
http://www.7-zip.org/
http://www.uploaded.to
http://uk.tv.ign.com/
http://www.racesport.nl/
http://www.cowonglobal.com/
http://www.siller.de/unternehmen/Unternehmen.htm
http://proxify.co.uk/p/011010A0000110/http://www.userfriendly.org
and many other more

~~Someone filled a bug report???~~

Edit:

Not confirmed bug:
1. Open a PDF-File in Browser
2. Click in the adress-bar
3. Minimize Opera into Taskbar
4. Maximize Opera again
5. Bug - hard to describe but I'm sure you'll see it when it happens to you too.

~~Not confirmed bug:~~
Edit: According to karolp and FataL, this is a known issue DSK-251769:
http://freenet-homepage.de/teal_one/opera4.html

Not confirmed bug:
Pin-Icon jumpes when Tab-Bar refreshes first time

~~Not confirmed bug:~~
Edit: According to karolp, this is a known issue:
Downloadicons looks very ugly
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/new-snapshot?startidx=150#comments

~~Not confirmed bug:~~
Edit: Confirmed by René-Gilles Deberdt. Reported as DSK-280449:
Refreshproblems on Favicons and Pagetitle, for example:
1. Open new tab
2. Go to google.com
3. Go Back
4. BUG: Favicon keeps to "Google"
5. Go forward
6. BUG: Favicon is Speedial und Title is Speedial

LLiam Garner11. February 2010, 08:39

Originally posted by huibk:

Try downloading again. 10.5 beta for Windows is a new build. :-)

Ooooh... just re-downloaded and YES! Build 3248.

Thanks for that... will go and play now!

Mascot11. February 2010, 08:40

Thanks!

A simple request, please add a Ctrl+Shift+Del shortcut to 'Delete Private Data' window, now that it changed location whether you wanna reach it from the menu bar (_T_ools|Delete Private Data) or the menu button (S_e_ttings|Delete Private Data).

Besmir Godole11. February 2010, 08:40

Great, great, great...

René-Gilles Deberdt11. February 2010, 08:42

Teal_One, I confirm the favicon bug. I noticed that too but it's not a very important bug so I forgot to mention it.

Johan Borg11. February 2010, 08:44

Originally posted by Teal_One:

Still my opinion that this is a Beta Show-Stopper:

Crash on several pages on Windows XP SP3

http://www.7-zip.org/

Should work in build 3248, please retest and confirm if you can!

Vectronic11. February 2010, 08:46

Originally posted by borg:

confirm if you can!

It works, XP SP3, so do the rest in his (Crash) list.

kill10011. February 2010, 08:46

Please correct the error occurred using the site http://vkontakte.ru
Here's a video error.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aOhdOsHB5U

d4rkn1ght11. February 2010, 08:48

Finally, a Mac and Unix build!

Александр Карпинский11. February 2010, 08:48

http://www.7-zip.org/ looks work in 3248

René-Gilles Deberdt11. February 2010, 08:50

Here's another freebie bug... Nothing showstopping, but it's been bothering my power-browser habits...

From any page, middle-click to open a link in a tab. Do it on several links, to open multiple tabs. Close the current tab.
The new tabs being highlighted is the LAST one you opened.

In earlier versions of Opera, it used to be the FIRST one you opened. When closing that tab, it would then switch to the next in chronological order. Now it's entirely reversed. This bothers me because usually the first tab I would open is the one I want to read first. Now I have to be careful to open the most interesting link last, if I want to read it first.

I'm sure it can be fixed easily, thanks

Dangerous Dave11. February 2010, 08:50

It appears some mirrors have 3247 instead of 3248. I just downloaded and got 3247, I'll try another mirror.

Opera Fanboy11. February 2010, 08:52

Congrats on the Beta release. Now can we get more new features and skin fixes that we have been promised?

Scam11. February 2010, 08:52

Seems far from beta

PraetorianX11. February 2010, 08:53

How can we get the 3248 build? I tried 3 times now, and always get the 3247 one!

Ruari Ødegaard11. February 2010, 08:54

Originally posted by Dangerous_Dave:

It appears some mirrors have 3247 instead of 3248. I just downloaded and got 3247, I'll try another mirror.

Use the sidebar link, or this.

Opera Fanboy11. February 2010, 08:55

Originally posted by borg:

Originally posted by Teal_One:

Still my opinion that this is a Beta Show-Stopper:

Crash on several pages on Windows XP SP3

http://www.7-zip.org/

Should work in build 3248, please retest and confirm if you can!

Crash confirmed on Vista SP1.

Edit: Oops. Turns out I was on build 3247, although the file name said Opera 10.5 Beta. Will check with the new build soon .

dualbore11. February 2010, 08:55

Some more to confirm:
1) Mailbox on https://www.gmx.com is still not shown after login. (it's like that for ~5 builds now)
2) I'm still unable to post on forums running on woltlab 3.0x.
3) Entering text on maps.google.com crashes Opera (the length of the string varies)
4) random freezes on right mouse button action in the mailpanel

RevathyKumar11. February 2010, 08:55

IETab using MeadCo Neptune plugin fails.Whenever a page is tried to read using the above plug in the Browser Crashes.The same plugin works in version 10.1.Can Anyone sugges suitable remeady please? Many Indian sites and newspapers are designed for IE.We are unable to read them using this fast and beautiful browser because of this problem.Please suggest a way to make the plugin compatable in Version 10.5.

revathykumar

dualbore11. February 2010, 08:56

(www.7-zip.org)

Originally posted by Opera Fanboy:

Crash confirmed on Vista SP1.

Not confirmed on WinXP SP3.

Vygantas11. February 2010, 08:57

Originally posted by PraetorianX:

Can't confirm. Works fine (opens foregroun tab) in Windows 7 x64

It happens from time to time, I have no idea what triggers it. One time everything works fine, another, all tabs open in background.

Also, is this me or when for instance scrolling this comments page, it works poorly (mouse wheel)?

Trizen11. February 2010, 08:57

Unix Alpha

Good job team

QtImporta11. February 2010, 08:58

Great work!
Just a question: in this versión, it's possible activate combined back + forward button??

Mamonong, Gerard R.11. February 2010, 08:58

Wow !! What the . . . ??

I just updated to the Beta RC2 - and after running it wow !!

Beta is here !!

Gotta update again !! XD

Teal_One11. February 2010, 09:04

Finally got the Build 3248 from ftp://get.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1050b1/en/Opera_1050_classic_b1_Setup.exe

Originally posted by borg:

Should work in build 3248, please retest and confirm if you can!

Confirmed as FIXED. Thanks a lot.

All other bugs are still in there - however I don't consider them as beta-show-stoppers

Zotlan11. February 2010, 09:05

Many thanks for the new Linux build.

The first time i tried to connect to Link there was another crash, but none since then.

Using the middle mouse button for panning is still not working.

Opera really struggles with the google analytics dashboard. It works better than in the previous build though.

KONIK11. February 2010, 09:05

Great work but Google Reader stil not working....
Please make it working ....

pollux11. February 2010, 09:06

Hi guys,

I really appreciate your effort and speed, however "insert a note" is still not working. I know it sounds like minor issue, but I am using this feature all the time. I thought that in beta it will be fixed

.

Btw, my Opera crashes on http://theoatmeal.com/ (Both Win7 RC 64bit and WinXP SP2 32bit).

Can anyone confirm?

PS: Sorry if this was reported already, I didn't have time to go trough all comments in last week

Opera Fanboy11. February 2010, 09:06

I can confirm that the 7Zip site is not crashing anymore on the new build

Teal_One11. February 2010, 09:11

Originally posted by polluxx:

Btw, my Opera crashes on http://theoatmeal.com/ (Both Win7 RC 64bit and WinXP SP2 32bit).

Can't confirm on Windows XP SP2. Sure you are using Build 3248?

QuHno11. February 2010, 09:12

Originally posted by dualbore:

1) Mailbox on https://www.gmx.com is still not shown after login. (it's like that for ~5 builds now)

I get a "No cookies" warning despite activated cookies when using that page to log in.

https://www.gmx.net/

works fine for me.

maexl11. February 2010, 09:13

Great! Thank you...downloading, installing and testing

Still shows "View (100%)" when zooming in or out.

Mark Gillespie11. February 2010, 09:16

Hmm, mirrors are playing up. I used the http://www.opera.com/browser/next/ Site and got 3247 build :-(

Not great if there are crashers fixed between the two builds, and you are serving up two different builds as 10.50 Beta...

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Published in	Desktop Team blog
Date	February 11, 2010
Author	Adam Minchinton
Tags	beta, evenes
Original	Internet Archive

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