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  • Unregistered userThursday, June 25, 2009 3:37:42 PM

    Clash writes: Dude, you are doing it again. YOU ARE NOT READING THE POSTS! All you are doing is finding some point of contention and going on a tangent in responding to that specific point while ignoring everything else that is being said. In other words you are not really participating in the conversation. You are just chiming in on some trivial point and you are just making A FOOL OF YOURSELF!!! GO AWAY!!!

  • Charles SchlossThursday, June 25, 2009 3:49:03 PM

    Can the two of you stop arguing?

  • Unregistered userThursday, June 25, 2009 7:51:20 PM

    Geez writes: How did I not read the post exactly? It clearly talked about additional storage, which is irrelevant here.

  • Unregistered userThursday, June 25, 2009 8:54:37 PM

    Clash writes: OK, here is what you are doing exactly; You are just looking for an excuse to become verbally abusive with others and that is not how these or any forums are to be used. If you really want to participate you should stop looking for a reason to say you're a moron and actually participate in a manner that is constructive and not disruptive. Forums are a venue for individuals that appreciate the input of others and desire to share constructive thoughts about whatever subject is being discussed. Forums are not a place to falsely assert your intelligence in an abusive manner. "Can the two of you stop arguing?" Chas4 is correct in saying that we should not be arguing. Needless to say that if arguments are going to be avoided then there should be some controls implemented over the participation of those who choose to become verbally abusive with others. It’s inappropriate and should not be tolerated!

  • Unregistered userFriday, June 26, 2009 1:55:48 AM

    Clash writes: In response to your request Chas4. I am sorry about all of this Chas but I do feel the need to explain my point of view..... It is completely unfair of you to expect me to just put up with his name calling, etc... You seem to be saying it’s ok to go around acting foolishly and calling people names as long as you do not argue about it? Huh? Sorry but I must admit I don't get it? If you want the argument to stop, I would be most happy to accommodate but you need to do something about the name calling and any other behavior that has no other purpose but to be abusive. It’s not just him. People should be able to feel comfortable with sharing their thoughts here without these ridiculous reprisals or fear of censorship. You have much bigger problems with your participants than this argument!

  • Charles SchlossFriday, June 26, 2009 3:42:29 AM

    Its just that I have just been watching this argument go about a page and a half, plus this is not my blog it is Haavard's

  • Unregistered userFriday, June 26, 2009 10:00:48 AM

    Geez writes: So basically, Clash realizes he was wrong, and storage is irrelevant and won't add more RAM, and now he's trying to hide that by trying to change the subject...

  • Unregistered userSaturday, June 27, 2009 2:38:46 AM

    first long post guy writes: i am the long post guy we should be able to use the sd slot for 1 saved game data 2 dsiware those two would be usefull because imagine that you get ur dsi stolend or u sell a game, where are u gonna get all of ur stuff back from. ps. the whole time ive been on dsi browser

  • Unregistered userSaturday, June 27, 2009 3:43:36 PM

    Clash writes: Look, the issue is not whether you have a "relevant" point! It’s your use of terms like "MORON" and your pathological need to disagree and shoot down everything that is said. You take the approach that you are an engineer that knows everything there is to know and spice that up with derogatory comments. Your statements are arbitrary and not in participation with the discussion. For Example, your response could have been; “I am thinking that this would not work because the sd card cannot act as RAM." Instead you said "So STOP BEING A MORON, AND PAY ATTENTION." while completely dismissing that person’s idea as though you are a fully trained designer of the device. What I am saying is that the person who suggested that the sd card could come into play should have been able to do so WITHOUT BEING CALLED A MORON. I am thinking that you are trying to draw attention to yourself and put yourself at odds with others because your parents ignore you. Let it go and start trying to think of ways to be nice to others and stop being abusive to them.

  • Unregistered userSaturday, July 11, 2009 7:56:15 AM

    Brenden Bray writes: i like the idea of a virtruel ram thing with an sdhc card

  • Unregistered userSaturday, July 25, 2009 4:36:49 AM

    Dsi owner writes: NINTENDO! GIVE ME FLASH FOR DSI! I DEMAND IT! What? I wants flash... Okay that was stupid. Oh yeah I am writing this on dsi internet ;^)…………↑↑↑※※※••}}{{}{}↓↓↓↓__~~™™®\£$

  • Unregistered userSaturday, July 25, 2009 4:46:46 AM

    Dsi owner writes: Ugh... Ugh... UGH...=FRUSTRATION Okay let me introduce you to dsi... 1000 free points free internet 2 cameras Dsi ware Wii point cards Dsi point cards PRICES 1 dsi = 180$ 1000 point = 10$ FIRST TIME FREE! 2000 point = 20$ 3000 point = 30$ 4000 point = 40$ 5000 point = 50$ BEST VALUE! ^_^ Hoping this helps!

  • Charles SchlossSaturday, July 25, 2009 4:52:09 AM

    Dsi owner have you read the post?

  • Unregistered userSunday, July 26, 2009 6:33:14 AM

    Anonymous writes: some one will find a way. just look at how far computers have come and look at the rate they are growing

  • Unregistered userMonday, July 27, 2009 8:45:25 AM

    sigh writes: They won't find a way since it's physically impossible to do. The DSi is JUST TOO SLOW and DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH MEMORY.

  • Unregistered userTuesday, July 28, 2009 10:23:21 PM

    Vulcure writes: Ok....I dont know EVERYTHING about technology so don't start shouting at me...there should be a application that allows you to make the SD Card speed up the system like the pc if nintendo does that then it won't matter if its slow or sluggish.Or you can use an expansion card like Clash said.Also nintendo can make it cost dsi points(like 2000) so it can be profitable then they can release a flash plugin (thats also for dsi points) for the dsi,Then it would be compatible with dsi (if im wrong PLEASE dont behave aggressive just tell me thanks) P.S:Im writing this on my dsi

  • Unregistered userWednesday, July 29, 2009 3:48:29 AM

    fluff writes: dsi browser..... it needs flash... bad, well i heard that the ARE making flash for the dsi! HA!!!!

  • Unregistered userFriday, July 31, 2009 5:59:40 PM

    Mikmo writes: Why is everyone acting like an idiot? Flash would be nice, but come on, it's not feasible with such a small procserrser....(according to my dad)

  • Unregistered userSunday, August 2, 2009 3:52:13 PM

    Anonymousdude writes: i was reading that their is a possibility that if nintendo use an update and you could use a computer that the computers own power could be utilized and the information could be sent through a private network. if thats true then wouldnt that be a very easy way to solve the problem

  • Unregistered userSunday, August 2, 2009 7:01:36 PM

    Anonymous writes: Using your computer to power the DS? Why are you using your DS if your computer is on anyway? Not gona happen. Not a chance in hell.

  • Unregistered userWednesday, August 5, 2009 1:08:35 AM

    Anonymous writes: everyone is just repeating themselves. no one is gonna give up so you should all just stop. @clash you spelled gnat wrong.

  • Unregistered userTuesday, October 13, 2009 4:06:41 AM

    Anonymous writes: ok.... lets pretend dsi DID have flash you go on youtube and learn that you need latest version of flash. so you decide to play a game. and, surprise surprise,you need diffrent keys to play the game. and even if youtube worked, you realise how slow it would be? so STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING if the dsi cant support flash it cant. so stop complaing and they may work on it also if your still demanding it,try making it yourself im sorry if someone already said this but im not reading the second page ps. if your going to complain, complain about its main function,because its a gaming system. like how it cant play gba games

  • JploTuesday, January 5, 2010 8:08:51 PM

    i) stop arguing; try going to the ESU (english speaking union) for advice on debating.

    ii) DSi and Wii both have system updates so why doesn't Nintendo Provide an update similar to wii's sDHc update, but make it to support a 'memory and CPU expansion card'; either a sD or Ds card size item. It would be a brand new product which the 'updated' system software, and a new version of the web browser, would recognise, and support; be compatible with, which would then enable flash features, and possibly JAVA, when inserted.

    That should clear up any arguments, as RAM can be added to PCs in a similar way.

    Even if it couldn't support extra CPU, flash objects could become active only when clicked on , and then go full screen when activated; without displaying the page. Then the CPU can concentrate on just the flash content and nothing else so as to keep it within it's limits. However that will mean that you wouldn't see the flash in context, and it would have to be re-downloaded every time it was activated. The web toolbar could shut down completely, with button activated return.

    Finally, I would like to point out that I know the DSi does not have:
    the CPU for loading flash within pages
    or
    the RAM for loading videos and swf, but
    The CPU PROBLEM with flash in pages can be solved by the 'full screen' solution
    and
    the RAM PROBLEM can be solved with said card.

    JPLO

  • Charles SchlossTuesday, January 5, 2010 8:13:58 PM

    RAM can't be solved with just and SD or SDHC or SDXC as they have different speeds and then there is the read speed of the SD slot, THe other thing is that flash would be a very big power drain. I would wait for the HTML 5 video elements. The other thing is that flash would have to be updated more often as it has become a very big target for hackers, just like .pdf

  • JploThursday, January 7, 2010 11:50:36 AM

    Okay, if flash was a hacker's target, surely that would apply to any PC or web browser, and therefore be irrelavant when talking about including flash on DSi, unless Adobe made DSi an operating system, so flash could be updated via them.
    Also, when referring to SD cards, I just meant a card-like item, in size and shape, but is in fact an entirely different piece of hardware. It could instead be the size of a game card, and go in that slot aswell. There shouldn't be a problem making a peripherall like that; it was done for DS and DSLite, in the form of a GBA cartridge, although it was, again, different hardware to an actual GBA game.

    JPLO

  • JploFriday, January 8, 2010 11:06:06 PM

    Or, it could support rtsp:// streaming, so then it could work at least with youtube mobile version

    JPLO

  • HaavardSaturday, January 9, 2010 1:12:35 PM

    That would require support in the DS itself. I don't think there's anything the browser can do to support that.

  • JploSunday, January 10, 2010 12:42:02 AM

    Okay, rtsp would be a dsi system update, uunless it could be just supported within the browser, thus making it supportable within the DSi itself. Customers and companies suggest things to each other, so Opera could suggest to Nintendo what I have said.

    JPLO

  • JploThursday, January 14, 2010 7:59:08 AM

    *CONTINUED*

    People have to work together to achieve. In this case, Opera and Nintendo

    JPLO

  • Charles SchlossThursday, January 14, 2010 2:40:13 PM

    JPLO there is also Adobe who owns Flash Player

  • JploThursday, January 14, 2010 7:27:10 PM

    *AMENDED*
    In that case Opera, Nintendo and Adobe can work together. After all, it does satisfy business interests for Adobe, giving them publicity

  • Charles SchlossThursday, January 14, 2010 9:34:59 PM

    Posted by Haavard

    The DSi browser is out in Japan, and I have seen quite a few disappointed comments on the lack of Flash support. It would have been great for videos on the go, but one needs to keep the technical specifications of the DSi in mind, which seem to be below even the Flash Lite system requirements.

  • JploSaturday, January 16, 2010 9:17:02 AM

    I would also like to point out that systems like the DSi can be modified; although in this case, it would be an official modification. Send it off to Nintendo, they re-arrange the insides etc and send it back. If enough people did it, the fee would be small aswell.

    JPLO

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 4:20:02 AM

    blank writes: I think that its stupid for opera not supporting flash from the start or that nintendo cant make an update on dsi for supporting download straight from the dsi ps. i did this from the dsi

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 4:32:29 AM

    blank continued writes: or they should make it so that if you have an sd card and a computer u could get it off of thre and went to sd card in data managment and it wold show it on there P.S. i did this from my dsi to

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 4:35:10 AM

    blank continued writes: or they should make it so that if you have an sd card and a computer u could get it off of thre and went to sd card in data managment and it wold show it on there P.S. i did this from my dsi to

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 4:36:38 AM

    blank again writes: sorry i did that twice

  • Charles SchlossFriday, February 12, 2010 4:49:26 AM

    Originally posted by anonymous:

    I think that its stupid for opera not supporting flash from the start


    Adobe owns Flash player and not Opera nor Nintendo, also the DSi does nto even have the hardware to run flash at all

    but one needs to keep the technical specifications of the DSi in mind, which seem to be below even the Flash Lite system requirements.

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 8:46:26 PM

    blank writes: yea i no but y cant they all work together for once

  • Unregistered userFriday, February 12, 2010 8:50:36 PM

    blank writes: or at least have aweb site on dsi that supports downloads so you could atleast download flash player for free

  • Charles SchlossFriday, February 12, 2010 9:11:03 PM

    Originally posted by anonymous:

    download flash player for free


    The DSi does not even have the minimum hard ware for flash player

    but one needs to keep the technical specifications of the DSi in mind, which seem to be below even the Flash Lite system requirements.

  • Unregistered userSaturday, February 13, 2010 1:41:18 AM

    Anonymous writes: we all need flashplayer on a dsi can some one help us out pleas we need it

  • Charles SchlossSaturday, February 13, 2010 1:52:46 AM

    You don't need flash player to view the web

  • billsofatSaturday, January 22, 2011 12:23:56 AM

    Listen,Nintendo might be looking for a way to play videos and some other stuff you can't do right now. What I'm saying is that it could be possible to get a way to run videos on the dsi with 16mb of ram and a 133mhz prosesser but they want it to have more ram and faster prosesser. Still it could happen but it could take some time. You know I really want flash too but we should wait and give Nintendo some time. I think there is a way to work around this I'm sure Nintend must have a least a few complaints and I'm sure their working on it. I'm not saying it will or won't happen. Still I'm sure their doung something right now so just wait a little. Yes I'm getting very sick of waiting so a good thing to do is go in the dsi settings menu check for updates if none go on dsi shop and see if it says the dsi browser has been updated. You might have to leave your dsi browser un the sd card and download it again because with like everything else it can't be in the system memory. If you don't have a sd card that's a problem but there is another way! If you don't have a sd card and store everything in the system memory you delete it from the system and go to dsi shop and download it again. The dsi browser is always free no matter what! So do what I told and if it does't work just give Nintendo a little time. When I wrote if it doesn't work I'm true because I've never tried it. Can you please try it for me because I have a lot of favorites I don't want deleted when I delete it from the system. By the way I have a sd card that's 2gb. The dsi runs up to 2gb sd cards and up to 32gb sdhc cards. I'm telling you this because I don't want you buying normal sd card that the dsi won't read. In dsi shop they might if the dsi browser has been updated in the importend info in the welcome page of the dsi shop click on it. So just wait a little and give Nintendo a chance and do what I said because then the wait will be less boring. Bye!

  • Charles SchlossSunday, January 23, 2011 6:41:57 AM

    billsofat the SD card is for storage, not for processing flash content and the DSi is not the only device that can't play flash and flash has to be constantly update to protect the users from security and crashing bugs

  • billsofatMonday, January 24, 2011 1:08:03 AM

    So all of you say that the dsi isn't powerful enough to run flash. What I say is that is. It is really stupid of Nintendo to chose to not give it flash when there is a good chance of it running it. The rumor floating around of Nintendo making a update. It might be close but it could be that they are working with the youtube people to make a youtube app. Flash can also run games on the internet but at least videos would make me happy. So some one please write to Nintendo that WE WANT FLASH GIVE US FLASH MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO WATCH VIDEOS ON THE DSI! If one of you would send this to Nintendo there is a good chance of geting flash. Hurry up send it we all don't want to wait so long.

  • billsofatMonday, January 24, 2011 1:27:27 AM

    Let's put on our thinking caps, we must send that we want flash on the dsi browser and email. If you do that you might see on dsi shop channel that the browser has been updated or there might be a system update I can't wait please do it!

  • Charles SchlossMonday, January 24, 2011 4:00:52 AM

    You will have to look at the hardware requirements of flash and see most handle held devices can't do the full flash (the Wii has flash light)

  • billsofatMonday, January 24, 2011 12:31:29 PM

    Where do you find the hardware requirements of flash lite?

  • Charles SchlossTuesday, January 25, 2011 4:41:01 AM

    Flash Lite http://www.adobe.com/africa/products/flashlite/systemreqs/

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