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  • minhoTuesday, August 21, 2012 5:17:18 PM

    Originally posted by ahoj1234:

    but.. annoying..PS: for example pages on "tw-db.info"http://tw-db.info/?strana=recipe&craft=4randomly and mostly NSL..


    I see some random NSL on my win 7 x64 too, but on win 7 Opera 12.01 is not unusable for me.

  • GreLITuesday, August 21, 2012 5:23:43 PM

    Will memory leaks be fixed in 12.02?
    Sorry, I can't be concrete due to not knowing steps to reproduce, but I noted today that Opera eaten almost 2 GB of memory and did a lot of I/O slowing down the whole system. After closing it continued to do somethings with 20-30 CPU and slow reducing of memory usage for about 10 minutes.
    For me Opera usually uses so many resources for mail (I have tens of thousands letters), but again I can't tell what it was.

  • RX-3200Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:51:20 PM

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    Originally posted by RX-3200:

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:
    Originally posted by RX-3200:again DSK-372481 in this bild
    You already have been told that it has been fixed internally, so please stop posting it



    it is broken in all builds of 12.50 and 12.02, respectively, and previously


    too long no build that it worked as it should
    and in this new build, it is also broken - so the appearance of another of my post about this issue - it is logical


    tell me how many builds have to wait to get your "fixed internally" is reflected in the actual build? - I'll wait
    and probably not going to post about this problem in the next build, where it will be broken, as you ask

  • netwolfTuesday, August 21, 2012 6:18:27 PM

    For me the best news of this blog post is

    It is not quite ready for Release Candidate...


    So apparently a lesson has been learned from the issues that accompanied the release of version 12, which many called and still call premature.
    Please keep it this way, and keep the rush out of the releases :up:

  • mfbdTuesday, August 21, 2012 6:47:15 PM

    fine. no problems so far with this build.
    HWA off, webgl on
    kde 4.9 opensuse 12.1 (64).

  • metudeTuesday, August 21, 2012 6:52:39 PM

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    and you should make a bug rapport about it, and not posting the trouble here. over and over again.


    Then what is purpose of taking comments on desktopteam blog?

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    To clarify, it's fixed in builds only available for Opera workers, it will come to us users later


    We can't know is it fixed in internally. So when will you make public bug tracker?

  • berend ytsmaTuesday, August 21, 2012 7:14:09 PM

    Originally posted by metude:

    We can't know is it fixed in internally. So when will you make public bug tracker?


    It has been told that it's fixed internally, be glad that you've get some info. It's better than nothing at all

  • ahoj1234Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17:32 PM

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    Originally posted by metude:

    We can't know is it fixed in internally. So when will you make public bug tracker?

    It has been told that it's fixed internally, be glad that you've get some info. It's better than nothing at all

    I hope you are just kidding :smile:) If they stop inform us.. we will stop inform they.. And open bugtracker is big step towards.. they will have another motivation to fixing.. and we will be informed and dont be talking about something again and again..

  • Otto WasserfeldtTuesday, August 21, 2012 7:33:22 PM

    CORE-48069 Opera isn't connecting correctly to secure pages

    When i visit the website mail.opera.com the adress field does not show me "Secure" after loading the page. There is just "Web" to see there. This is the only site with this problem. I have tried it with a clean usb install too.

  • metudeTuesday, August 21, 2012 8:14:32 PM

    Originally posted by myOnno:

    When i visit the website mail.opera.com the adress field does not show me "Secure" after loading the page. There is just "Web" to see there. This is the only site with this problem. I have tried it with a clean usb install too.


    Confirmed on WinXP 32bit.

  • slaufTuesday, August 21, 2012 9:36:17 PM

    UPDATE: Opera freezes when i normal use it in browsing mode. Today i browse to Xing for a premium account, but while the site is loading, the browser stopped its working. The only solution is to stop the browser by task manager and start it again. Another problem appears when the browser starts and when it is initializing its databse. Then it loads sometimes only all the databases till my birthday this year on 07/07/2012. That was approximately the date when i switched from Opera 11.6x to 12.x !

  • Gustavo Ariel MolinaWednesday, August 22, 2012 12:12:39 AM

    Make that functions with AirDroid.

    http://airdroid.com/

  • kcrabbeWednesday, August 22, 2012 1:02:29 AM

    Anybody else getting random links that don't work? What happens is this: I click on a link or a post (mostly in various forums) and the page doesn't load. Doesn't even go off of the page I'm on. If I hit the "X" (to stop loading) and click again, it will work the second time. Happens with both 32 and 64 bit versions. Thanks.

    Win 7 64

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 3:52:50 AM

    win 7 x64, Opera x64, clean install
    When I close this build, Opera link sync dialog is still on my screen for a long time and I need click on "Exit" button to close Opera.

  • NullWednesday, August 22, 2012 4:05:10 AM

    So no scrolling fix before Opera 13? Nice feature.

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 4:21:38 AM

    Opera link does not sync bookmarks/personal bar after clean install on win 7 x64.

  • Bhikkhu PesalaWednesday, August 22, 2012 5:18:59 AM

    Page freezes Opera. 99% cpu use on single-core PC.

    Elephant Walking (Silverlight plugin issue)?

  • Otto WasserfeldtWednesday, August 22, 2012 5:45:26 AM

    Originally posted by myOnno:

    CORE-48069 Opera isn't connecting correctly to secure pages

    When i visit the website mail.opera.com the adress field does not show me "Secure" after loading the page. There is just "Web" to see there. This is the only site with this problem. I have tried it with a clean usb install too.

    Update: On this site it does not work too: https://www.paket.de/pkp/appmanager/pkp/desktop?_nfpb=true&_portlet.async=false&_pageLabel=pkp_portal_page_introduction

  • senseysensorWednesday, August 22, 2012 6:19:35 AM

    Originally posted by Pesala:

    Page freezes Opera. 99% cpu use on single-core PC.

    http://www.drawplus.com/drawing.html?uid=1269]Elephant Walking (Silverlight plugin issue)?

    the same for me. Yes, seems plugin issue (when it's not loaded - page is not consuming)

  • anikulWednesday, August 22, 2012 6:40:05 AM

    These regressions are still present

    DSK-372443

    DSK-372444

    DSK-372445

    Is opera team ever gonna take these bugs into consideration?? or am I wasting my time..???

  • HadesWednesday, August 22, 2012 7:34:25 AM

    I like that way: make the basic browser awesome, and than add the brand new features, like OoP Plugins, HWA, aaand the awaited SPDY. Just go on like that!:cheers:

    Some minor bugs of these: random favicons in bookmark bar, randomly disappear in earlier opened random tabs. (yet unable to reproduce which and when or why)

    Plugin Process still gives 1 Error Message after closing opera, with crash log failed or successfully created. (x64 version, I still have that)

    This version is on the way to get back in Opera's history of best browsers, can't wait the new updates and also 12.50. :yes:

    Win7, x64 version installed.

  • MarcoWednesday, August 22, 2012 7:44:58 AM

    Will you ever fix the overlay css issue?
    Just try with Wordpress or click on SIGN up here: http://diasporaproject.org/

    Nothing appears.
    Please, fix this annoying issue, I've been asking for that since ver. 10 now.

  • nimu_chanWednesday, August 22, 2012 7:53:13 AM

    Thank you very much!!:happy:

  • aleckleeWednesday, August 22, 2012 8:25:49 AM

    The BCC field in mail composing page cannot be hid since 12.00.

  • alekksanderWednesday, August 22, 2012 8:36:49 AM

    Originally posted by danei:

    So no scrolling fix before Opera 13? Nice feature.

    it's partly fixed in Marlin (12.50), so i don't think they will spend any more time on that now... pity, i know, because it's very noticeable and i lowers overall user experience, but that's how it is here (from what i noticed). Priorities...

    Originally posted by sdgrey45:

    http://forum.thebigboss.org/entry.php%3f89410-nice-to-have-low-cost-snapback-hats
    http://directory.pure-web-marketing.com/detail.php%3fid%3d154
    http://www.ripyard.com/p-655-metal-mulisha-commander-snapback-hat-black-yellow.aspx
    http://bin.saar-treffer.de/2012/08/09/the-okc-snapbacks-for-sale-are-rolling-right-along-in-kobe-bryants-absence/
    http://haciendofotos.com/las-mejores-fotos/search.php%3fpage%3d199%26search%3dsnapback%2bhats%252c%2bsnapback%2bhats%2bfor%2bsale
    http://www.en-hrana.com/index.php%3foption%3dcom_content%26view%3darticle%26id%3d471:siavash-eslamis-lashing-sentence-carried-out%26catid%3d8:workers%26itemid%3d16
    http://abbeyscradle.weebly.com/1/post/2009/07/improve-your-business-security-by-using-wireless-gate-entry-system.html

    Menu>Help>Report a site problem...

  • doveloveWednesday, August 22, 2012 9:08:40 AM

    Vista 64 Build 1558 4 Gig Mem

    CORE-48069 Opera isn't connecting correctly to secure pages

    Seems to STILL give me some problems but eventually do log on. 1552 I ABSOLUTELY could Not log on to a VERY important secure website I pay for to control very expensive machinery.

    12.01 didn't have that problem.

  • Scottn1Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:38:22 AM

    I'm experience a HUGE reduction in NSL's in using the x64 version of this release (on Win7 x64) compared to same version but x32. Yes, I tried both. With the x32 I had NSL happen within 5 minutes of browsing and several more in next hour. With the x64 I am not an hour into my browsing and I have had NONE! Only one false alarm that did eventually load fully.

    I've always just used the x32 version on my x64 Windows box thinking there is no speed benefit to using a x64 browser (some javascript benchmarks have shown maybe even a slight performance loss for x64).

    Also, is there any chance you could default Google searches in the bar to encrypted Google like Firefox recently has done? It only requires me a quick change to do it myself, but I think it would be a good default for all.

  • karolpWednesday, August 22, 2012 10:21:11 AM

    Originally posted by alekksander:

    -no flash content

    No Flash content anywhere or just on some sites? HWA on? Which build?

  • karolpWednesday, August 22, 2012 10:29:22 AM

    Originally posted by senseysensor:

    Originally posted by Pesala:

    Page freezes Opera. 99% cpu use on single-core PC.

    http://www.drawplus.com/drawing.html?uid=1269]Elephant" target="_blank">http://www.drawplus.com/drawing.html?uid=1269]Elephant Walking (Silverlight plugin issue)?

    the same for me. Yes, seems plugin issue (when it's not loaded - page is not consuming)

    OS? Build? Clean profile / dafault setup?

  • MossManWednesday, August 22, 2012 10:40:21 AM

    Originally posted by ytsmabeer:

    Originally posted by cawington:

    Where to send the report?

    https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/


    Note to Desktop Team - perhaps it would be a good idea to clearly put this link near the download links and warning message at the top of these pages...

    It's actually a bit of a pain to navigate there if you don't remember the address or have it bookmarked! (I speak from experience...)

  • Bhikkhu PesalaWednesday, August 22, 2012 10:48:18 AM

    Originally posted by alekksander:

    Menu>Help>Report a site problem...

    Spammer was already removed, but blog post also needs to be deleted. Delete the spam links in your post.

    Some significant bugs remain in Opera 12 — not all are new:
    1. DSK-296141 — Unable to remove O-menu button from any toolbar
    2. DSK-352518 — Incorrect Indentation on Lists Test page
    3. DSK-357744 — Removing Words from Dictionary Removes other Variants, e.g. Removing "realize" flags "real" as an error; removing "organize" flags "organ" (and "or"!) as an error.
    4. DSK-367776 — Minimum Tab Width No Longer Respected (Regression in Opera 12.0x)
    5. DSK-372504 — WAV Files Don't Play Test Page (Regression in Opera 12.0x)

    http://files.myopera.com/Pesala/files/Spelling%20errors.png -
    OS Windows XP Home SP3.

  • allgothWednesday, August 22, 2012 12:27:34 PM

    the text typing problem in some flash applications still persist. Every typed character appears twice(http://files.myopera.com/allgoth/albums/12500802/Screenshot_uno.png). It affects the Uno client on facebook(https://apps.facebook.com/liveuno/)
    tested with linux 32 & 64 bit on opera 12.x and opera-next 12.5x


  • kanstisamaWednesday, August 22, 2012 12:47:03 PM

    Still no fix for this:



    There is a graphical issue with open tabs. I'm using tabs on the left side of the Opera window. When there is enough of them there comes a moment when Opera tries to condense it more to something like a bar. In this very moment when you move cursor over tabs they go haywire. They blink, tabs are expanding and condensing over and over again. This way you can't properly choose a tab! When there is even one more or one less tab it doesn't happen. Please fix this as it's getting on my nerves. Would be nice if someone would confirm it.
    Win7 x64, Opera x32, HW OFF

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 2:10:26 PM

    Originally posted by Scottn1:

    I'm experience a HUGE reduction in NSL's in using the x64 version of this release (on Win7 x64) compared to same version but x32.


    I have several NSL problems using this x64 build on win 7 x64 and on linux this build is unusable because many NSL problems. Since 12.00 release Opera is unusale for me on linux. :sad:

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 2:37:41 PM

    Can anyone confirm this bug please?
    On "When closing a tab" setting choose
    "Active the next tab" option
    press ctrl+n to open a new Opera window
    open any site
    press ctrl+t to open a new tab and open any site
    open some links in background using middle click
    close the tab
    Result: Opera goes to first tab instead next tab

    Fedora 17 x32
    Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, Opera x64
    win 7 x64, Opera x64, clean install

  • TZ86Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:42:44 PM

    Originally posted by minho:

    Can anyone confirm this bug please?
    On "When closing a tab" setting choose
    "Active the next tab" option
    press ctrl+n to open a new Opera window
    open any site
    press ctrl+t to open a new tab and open any site
    open some links in background using middle click
    close the tab
    Result: Opera goes to first tab instead next tab

    Confirmed.

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 3:54:26 PM

    Originally posted by TZ86:

    Confirmed.


    Thnaks! :up:
    Reported as DSK-372591.

  • netwolfWednesday, August 22, 2012 4:05:45 PM

    Originally posted by minho:

    I have several NSL problems using this x64 build on win 7 x64 and on linux this build is unusable because many NSL problems.


    Same here on Win7x64.

    With 11.64 (my main browser) I hardly ever have NSL, while with this build the first one appeared after only 2 or 3 minutes of usage and with only 3 open tabs(compared to 15 - 50 with 11.64).

  • TZ86Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:32:36 PM

    BTW starting with previous build setting button on mail panel isn't working.



    Nothing happens when I click on it.

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 4:43:19 PM

    Originally posted by TZ86:

    BTW starting with previous build setting button on mail panel isn't working.

    http://ompldr.org/vZjc1ZA" />

    Nothing happens when I click on it.

    Same on my Ubuntu 12.04 amd64.

  • AzraelWednesday, August 22, 2012 5:50:15 PM

    Does any of you see the gif from here
    http://cheezburger.com/6527074816
    According to one of the comments it's blank because " browser developers fail to learn the difference between straight and premultiplied alpha."
    BTW yes, it is a gif, a trolling one.

  • oracle2bWednesday, August 22, 2012 6:13:28 PM

    Please fix this bug DSK-368636. drag and drop multiple files to file-manager in linux. Ram usage could be better!

  • netmainWednesday, August 22, 2012 6:28:51 PM

    I've just had a memory leak: 01 facebook page, 02 youtube pages ( front page and 01 video playing), the Haavard's Top3 blog post, and the desktop team blog.... Opera used 1.3 GO of memory /02 GO total memory on Win8 32bit..

    HA/WebGL off.

  • vux777Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:46:32 PM

    sry if it's been posted already (I swiped comments, didn't find)

    1) Outlook.com don't work (again!!) it loads mail, but it is un-clickable eg. nothing happens when I click on mail or profile icon

    2) DISQUS comments have NSL bug

    win7 x64, 1558 x64, WebGL off, HWA off

  • LyonSHWednesday, August 22, 2012 6:59:58 PM

    mp3 Player - jQuery jPlayer (not even started!)
    CPU time - 23-25%
    Opera hangs... (If the tab is active with jplayer)

    Flash 11.4 / WinXP

    -----------------ALSO------------------
    on any page
    just drag your mouse....
    CPU time - 2-24%

    why so live? :confused:

  • step-2Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:37:26 PM

    finally a crash report :

    https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/

    report :

    http://files.myopera.com/sunmooon15/files/opera-20120823012527.zip

  • blaximaWednesday, August 22, 2012 9:48:58 PM

    Flash videos still smear down a page when scrolling.

    Opera has a very difficult time trying to properly load nfl.com. That is with no content blocking enabled. It periodically will freeze the browser

    Clean usb install
    win xp sp3
    win 7
    latest flash

  • minhoWednesday, August 22, 2012 10:20:37 PM

    M2 bug on linux...
    press ctrl+m to compose a new message
    change to html formatting
    change font type to arial black
    write any text and press enter
    Result: font type changes to default type (dejavu sans mono)
    Can anyone confirm please?

    Ubuntu 12.04 amd64, Opera x64

  • Scottn1Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:07:57 AM

    Spoke a little too soon. While still a tad better than in the past, I am back to getting random NSL's (even with x64 version now where fresh install seemed to have none).

    Worst part is that NSL's appear randomly and are not 100% reproducible. I can have one, clear cache/restart and then same page loads without it.

    I can get one at this page but not consistently: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/new_customer/base_packages.jsp?footernavtype=-1

    UGH

  • KamaleshThursday, August 23, 2012 2:37:14 AM

    Getting nasty NSL at PaidContent.

    Also, noticed the "share" controls in the articles are showing the Tweet/Email dropdown always. They should be closed unless you hover over the button.

    On installs of the last few builds with 12.0x and Marlin, when dragging the new version and doing a replace, I'm getting "Opera.ics file in use." Is that the icon file??
    (OSX v10.7.4)

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