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The first Opera 11.60 post-Beta snapshot

November 11, 2011 · by Ruarí Ødegaard

The Beta has come and gone. So what next? Now we move on to fixing the major outstanding issues and getting you a final version of Tunny as soon as we can. To start process off here is another snapshot with a focus on crash fixes, plus a Unite fix and finally a Core tweak that should make Gmail work more reliably in Opera 11.60. yes

And before anyone asks, no we haven't forgotten about Wahoo (Opera 12.00) and expect to start providing you Opera Next snapshots again next week. wink

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog

Core
  • CORE-35501 (Opening Unite home service triggers network warning)
  • CORE-42518 (Gmail inbox doesn't load)
  • Fixed several common crashes in 11.60 that were reported via automated crash logging

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

  • Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proFriday, November 11, 2011 4:01:49 PM

    Thanks for the quick snapshot.
  • alharawiFriday, November 11, 2011 4:02:16 PM

    Thanks, testing !!
  • Jeff ™intelimac20inchFriday, November 11, 2011 4:18:50 PM

    Thanks for the new Opera snapshot. up coffee
  • mfbdFriday, November 11, 2011 4:19:53 PM

    Mail: In the mail header field there is a new little button (show all), when there are a lot of addresses in To: or Cc: - All right.
    But I can not scroll down the header content. Only the mail text itself is scrollable. So not all recipients might be read on small displays, e.g. on netbooks
  • BugfixerFriday, November 11, 2011 4:22:10 PM

    I think it's time to say that you're doing a very good job. The quality and progress of Opera is awesome and i'm impressed by every new version of Opera. Thank you Opera team. Have a nice weekend cheers
  • QuHnoFriday, November 11, 2011 4:27:52 PM

    DSK-350191 (chinese chraracters instead of proper display of content or protocol type) only partially solved under w7x64 here.

    No more Chinese characters in the display of the the protocol type or the content type in the toolbar but no characters at all.

    I for sure will not click to register content or or protocol handlers to web services without knowing what I register.

    May be sticking more to the suggestion made at the HTML5 spec page would be better, at least the aditional warning triangle would be appropriate IMHO.
  • cowwFriday, November 11, 2011 4:31:51 PM

    Opera not loading some pages fully unless refreshed

    http://kepfeltoltes.hu/111110/untitled_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

    Version
    11.60 beta
    Build
    1150
    windows xp sp3 32bit
  • Ar1Pear1peFriday, November 11, 2011 4:39:12 PM

    Originally posted by coww:

    Opera not loading some pages fully unless refreshed

    http://kepfeltoltes.hu/111110/untitled_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

    Version
    11.60 beta
    Build
    1150
    windows xp sp3 32bit



    Works here Win 7 x64
  • ahoj1234Friday, November 11, 2011 4:39:25 PM

    http://www.spszl.cz/

    I still have problem with fonts.. :/ on this site are fonts bigger than they should be.. (Try in another browsers -chrome,FF..- and without problems..)

    confirmations? (IDK what is wrong..,maybe the webpage is written bad and maybe opera has problem...)

    Win 7 x64 this build as portable version (only for test this website..)
  • Kit Walkerkitwalker22Friday, November 11, 2011 4:39:30 PM

    A usability issue with the new email view -- the button for popping up the mail view dialog is at the top right end of the page (in the mail toolbar); whereas the resulting dialog pops up at the top left end of the page. This is annoying as one has to move the mouse all the way to the other end of the screen to change any setting.

    Also, where are the keyboard shortcuts to change the mail view from list-only to message-below to message-on-right?
  • nimu_channimuchanFriday, November 11, 2011 4:39:55 PM

    Oh...Thank you!!smile up
  • Kai OckendorfOckendorfFriday, November 11, 2011 4:40:01 PM

    At first: thanks for the hard work up !! I noticed a strange behavior with 11.60...with Opera 12 when you click on some links on www.bild.de a kind of this behavior is shown before the page loads! I reported this as a bug long time ago (DSK-298198), but with Opera 11.60, bild.de is working fine (only very rarely this behavior is shown), but now I see it when I log in to Twitter and Facebook confused . Opera 12 doesn't show it there...

    W7x64 SP1
  • Satan D. LucifersupertrolFriday, November 11, 2011 4:45:07 PM

    Any plans to remove "opera:gpu" before 11.60 final?

    dont ignore this..little things do matter

    it would be stupid to have opera:gpu in the final 11.60
  • zombieFriday, November 11, 2011 4:54:02 PM

    I always have a tab open with rss feeds (Feeds > Read Feeds).
    If the feeds list is empty when I open Opera the wrong buttons (mail buttons) are displayed in the toolbar over the message window.
    When a feed is received the toolbar will turn back to the correct buttons.
  • berend ytsmaytsmabeerFriday, November 11, 2011 4:59:59 PM

    Originally posted by supertrol:

    Any plans to remove "opera:gpu" before 11.60 final?dont ignore this..little things do matterit would be stupid to have opera:gpu in the final 11.60


    Wouldn't be stupid cause most people don't even know it exist, so there's not big change they will type in that address
  • lunter22Friday, November 11, 2011 5:03:42 PM

  • ohxtenFriday, November 11, 2011 5:04:29 PM

    11.60 is great so far... what I'd love to see before final:

    1. Less CPU usage when smooth scrolling, especially on sites like reddit.com/r/shutupandtakemymoney

    2. Less space taken by the "top" UI, which includes the address bar. A little too much whitespace underneath the address bar I think (makes it look bulky).
  • XombiemubaidrFriday, November 11, 2011 5:06:13 PM

    i think you should continue hunt for bugs for one more week and release parallel builds for opera 11.6 and opera 12 or maybe just opera 11.6 since webgl is not much important but stability!! yes
  • Novoselov MichaelShark136Friday, November 11, 2011 5:07:22 PM

    Confirm - no more crash on http://samlab.ws
    But I do not know who was the first, owner (he made ​​a small change in the site code), or your team.
    However, now all is fine.
  • XombiemubaidrFriday, November 11, 2011 5:07:48 PM

    i think you should continue hunt for bugs for one more week and release parallel builds for opera 11.6 and opera 12 or maybe just opera 11.6 since webgl is not much important but stability!!

    Very good job so far!!! yes
  • earth01Friday, November 11, 2011 5:24:53 PM

    A few builds ago, I found a bug with the address bar. Now, here is how to reproduce it easily idea :

    1) Open a new tab, make a search in the address bar.
    2) Go to one of the result with keyboard shortcuts. (Shift + Arrow keys and then Enter)
    3) Make a Ctrl + T in order to open a new tab.
    4) Now click on the previous tab.

    -> The icon next to "Web" in the address bar has disappeared ! yikes

    Win7 x64 / openSUSE 11.4 x86_64

    PS : Do not forget to fix other quite old skin bugs wink (the 2 pixels line over the Opera menu icon, the "click to activate" icon in the address bar which is 1px under the others, the progress bar which is shifted when it reaches ***/***).

    I know it is not very fun to do but it would look more professional. smile

    PS2 : I had a crash with this build that was automatically reported, but I could not say why. confused
  • Bhikkhu PesalaPesalaFriday, November 11, 2011 5:27:51 PM

    How Stuff Works still freezes this build. This is a popular site, so this is a significant issue.
  • CristiancristianerFriday, November 11, 2011 5:28:21 PM

    Originally posted by mubaidr:

    i think you should continue hunt for bugs for one more week


    Yes, I agree. I want a final version of 11.60 soon.

    Thanks for this snapshot.
  • al007Friday, November 11, 2011 5:28:52 PM

    Is these an option planned for setting old behavior of Text Select cursor?
  • Bhikkhu PesalaPesalaFriday, November 11, 2011 5:34:06 PM

    Originally posted by supertrol:

    it would be stupid to have opera:gpu in the final 11.60


    Trivial IMO — a setting that no one knows about is hardly likely to cause problems. Those who have been following betas know that it applies to Opera 12.00.

    All opera:gpu shows for me is "Vega Backend Software." What does it show for you, and why does it matter?
  • Christophchristoph142Friday, November 11, 2011 5:35:11 PM

    Still the two issues with the installer:

    1. if Opera is running and has to be terminated by the installer, the "waiting"-icon has a box around it

    2. the language is changed by default to your system instead of keeping the one of the Opera installation, which you are trying to upgrade
  • WilbundelFriday, November 11, 2011 5:42:59 PM

    The work of the local CSS will be fixed?
  • dracodraconairFriday, November 11, 2011 5:44:20 PM

    So, starting from 11.60 I will need to mark all my feeds/news as read because of non existing unread messages (there is no way to figure which feeds causing the problem because of number of them)? It works for years, what did you do with mail database? And I still have two october bars... rofl

    (I restored stable mail folder before this update)
  • ugly95Friday, November 11, 2011 5:46:37 PM

    Originally posted by Pesala:

    How Stuff Works still freezes this build. This is a popular site, so this is a significant issue.


    The page doesn't lock up for me, but it does seem to be endlessly loading with 1000+ elements.
  • eonblueFriday, November 11, 2011 5:47:33 PM

    wow really fast
  • iAlexSFriday, November 11, 2011 5:49:17 PM

    diary of the weather looks terrible at the opera
    http://www.gismeteo.ru/diary/4079/2010/11/
  • SCRAMsequenceFriday, November 11, 2011 5:55:27 PM

    Full-screen mode is broken on my Windows XP installation. Here's how it looks after hitting F11:

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14908346/fullscreen.jpg

    Windows XP 32bit SP3, Opera 11.60.1150
  • earth01Friday, November 11, 2011 5:56:31 PM

    On linux, HTML5 youtube videos do not crash anymore, but :

    They work only on first load. If you refresh the page, or you close it and go back later, they do not load anymore. sad

    I got this message on the error output :

    (<unknown>:4834): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_debug_add_log_function: assertion `func != NULL' failed
  • pepkin88Friday, November 11, 2011 5:56:34 PM

    Originally posted by coww:

    Opera not loading some pages fully unless refreshed

    http://kepfeltoltes.hu/111110/untitled_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png

    Version
    11.60 beta
    Build
    1150
    windows xp sp3 32bit

    Bug confirmed here, although on another pages, if happens again I'll write addresses. Win7x64.
  • DanielDD64Friday, November 11, 2011 5:58:43 PM

    Open a HTML5-YouTube-Video (without any other HTML5-Videos loaded before)
    Close the tab before the video is 'initialized' =>
    Opera crashes
    ---
    Opera "Welcome-Screen" isn't centered on main-screen when using more than one screens.
    ---
    Open the Adress-Bar, hover an entry => http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/lz8yls3o/Unbenannt.PNG (Icon changed)
    Windows 7 64 Bit
  • GeneticBOTFriday, November 11, 2011 6:03:34 PM

    This bug is still present in this snapshot:

    "An important bug in this site: http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/

    Image: http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2976/operabug.png

    The category list is not working as it should, it is supposed that you have to chose only ONE item from each column until you reach a continue buttom.

    It's a well known site for sales.

    Win 7 x64"

    DSK-350045
  • Satan D. LucifersupertrolFriday, November 11, 2011 6:08:53 PM

    Originally posted by Pesala:

    Originally posted by supertrol:

    it would be stupid to have opera:gpu in the final 11.60

    Trivial IMO — a setting that no one knows about is hardly likely to cause problems. Those who have been following betas know that it applies to Opera 12.00. All opera:gpu shows for me is "Vega Backend Software." What does it show for you, and why does it matter?


    by reading the comments in this blog people will know "opera:gpu" exists in the 11.60 snapshots so far so i dont think that a "setting that no one knows about" is kinda vague..(unless moderators decided to remove my comment about this)

    lets admit that 11.60 is "unexpected" to come since a lot of users expecting 12 is next after 11.52 but releasing a build without HWA plus showing a "GPU summary" from a single page is misleading a bit of users who "maybe" accidentally type opera:gpu in addresfield.

    and for the people who like to browse the "opera:config" searching for GPU..well you know about it now


    sure its beta stage and applies for 12 but 11.60 final(stable) with opera:gpu in it is misleading a lot of users dont you think? might as well use a 12 snapshot as a main stable build than a 11.60 with a misleading page


    this will be my final posts about this..i expect opera dev team to get on their heads and remove the page before reaching RC or final


    small things do matter.




  • earth01Friday, November 11, 2011 6:09:33 PM

    Originally posted by DD64:

    Open a HTML5-YouTube-Video (without any other HTML5-Videos loaded before)Close the tab before the video is 'initialized' =>Opera crashes


    It freezes and then Windows proposes to shutdown Opera on my side.
    Opera does not propose to send a crash log.

    Win7 x64
  • DanielDD64Friday, November 11, 2011 6:18:42 PM

    More bugs:
    - Open a very secure HTTPS-Webpage (so that the text in the "Web/Secure" field is long enough to stretch that field)
    - Switch to a normal Tab
    - Close Opera
    - Open Opera
    - Switch to that secure Tab
    => http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/ph17sqtw/Unbenannt.PNG

    ---

    After closing Opera, opera.exe*32 is still running for at least 5 Minutes (or longer)

    All bugs @ win7 x64
  • mfbdFriday, November 11, 2011 6:19:02 PM

    Originally posted by earth01:

    On linux, HTML5 youtube videos do not crash anymore, but :They work only on first load. If you refresh the page, or you close it and go back later, they do not load anymore.



    html5 video on youtube: 1150 works much better than 1147, no crash so far.
    close tab, open it again, back and forward: ok
    had one case video didn't play again after hitting F5 reload. In other cases video started to play again from the beginning after F5 as expected

    11.6b 1150 on opensuse 11.4 kde 4.7.3 (64)
  • JanGenFriday, November 11, 2011 6:29:06 PM

    Can't watch video's on the television programs of the Dutch Broadcast

    http://beta.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1114692

    not in flash, haven't tried silverlight

    Ubuntu 64
  • alf245Friday, November 11, 2011 6:30:12 PM

  • Bhikkhu PesalaPesalaFriday, November 11, 2011 6:40:13 PM

    Originally posted by SCRAMsequence:

    Full-screen mode is broken on my Windows XP installation


    Here too — transparent skins are not working as expected and title bar is shown.
  • flowebFriday, November 11, 2011 6:46:46 PM

    Skin bugs which are really annoying (for me)... Sorry smile

    http://i.imgur.com/VdL4t.jpg

    Keep up the good work!
  • DanielDD64Friday, November 11, 2011 7:02:01 PM

    Sometimes (I cannot really reproduce it), a Flash-Element doesn't
    disappear when a page was reloaded or a tab was closed.

    That Flash-Element doesn't disappear but it's fully functional:
    http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/w69jlew5/Unbenannt2.jpg
  • LucalucaviozziFriday, November 11, 2011 7:08:43 PM

    Originally posted by floweb:

    Skin bugs which are really annoying (for me)... Sorry smile

    http://i.imgur.com/VdL4t.jpg

    Keep up the good work!

    for me too. Pls fix before the release.
  • kcrabbeFriday, November 11, 2011 7:20:03 PM

    Thanks for the quick fixes. GMail working for me now.

    Win 7 64

    Spoke too soon. Back to periodic half loading. Refreshing does fix problem.
  • earth01Friday, November 11, 2011 7:24:19 PM

    The progress bar and the icons should be inverted :


    Another bug with that :

    1) Click on the star
    2) If some content is loading, the menu of the star closes itself.
  • konicFriday, November 11, 2011 7:32:14 PM

    1150 Crashes 100% on closing feeds tab !? sad
    BTW, why there is no build number in the title of the post?
    When I look in the About I do not see, pre-, post-, and so on.
  • minhoFriday, November 11, 2011 7:41:42 PM

    Disable any panel by "+" button from panel bar... Crash!

    Ubuntu 11.10 x32

About this article

Published inDesktop Team blog
DateNovember 11, 2011
AuthorRuarí Ødegaard
Tags11.60, tunny
OriginalInternet Archive