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Opera 14 beta for Android is out

March 5, 2013 · by Andreas Bovens

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Yes, that's right: 14. We think that the engine switch from Presto to WebKit that we announced a few weeks ago is such a big step that we decided to skip the 13 number altogether, and go straight to 14! But there's more than just the engine to talk about: you'll also notice a total overhaul of the UI in native code, making it fit well with the latest Android design guidelines. Go get the beta from Google Play or point your browser to m.opera.com, and give it a spin!

Android 2.3 and up

Currently, we support Android 2.3 and higher. That's important, as 45% of Android users are still on Gingerbread — now they also can get top of the range features and performance!

At this point, we don't have an Opera 14 build ready for tablets yet: we're still working on various UI optimizations and this will be released later.

A whole new engine

This first beta release is based on AppleWebKit/537.22 and Chrome/25.0.1364.123 — we plan to follow a fast development cycle, so it's likely that the final Opera 14 product is based on an even more recent milestone.

The engine inside Opera is very closely in sync with the one included in Chrome Beta (which is also at AppleWebKit/537.22 and Chrome/25.0.1364.122 at the moment), but with some added standardsy goodness.

Opera 14 for Android has out-of-the-box support for:

  • input type=color
  • Microdata
  • WebGL 3D context
  • CSS3 @supports

Opera 14 for Android does not have support for:

  • Custom search providers
  • access to chrome://flags

We've also adjusted our UA string, so as to avoid old sniffing traps: it's similar in format as the Chrome UA string, with, for this release, OPR/14.0.1025.52315 appended at the end. Of course, you shouldn't be looking at this at all, and instead do feature detection, so forget we mentioned it.

New UI and features

The first thing you'll notice is the new Discover feature, which helps you find interesting online content. If you pan to the left, Speed Dial emerges, which now also contains all your bookmarks. You can combine bookmarks in one level-deep sets by dragging and dropping them on top of each other. And if you pan further to the left, you'll find an overview of your browsing History. These 3 views give you a good place to dive right into browsing, or you can of course query for sites from the redesigned combined address+search bar.

The red O button has moved to the top right of the screen, just like in other Android applications, and it toggles a menu with advanced options, such as Sharing, Find in Page, Downloads, Settings, and more.

However, the one special highlight here is Off-Road mode: when toggled on, pages are loaded via the Opera Mini servers, thereby reducing bandwidth and data cost. We thought: Yo dawg, we heard you like browsing, so we put a browser in your browser!. So, no more need to switch browser to get Opera Mini features: you get it all in one package.

Of course, there are many more details to talk about — the plus button, private tabs, browser.js — but we leave those up to you to discover. Enjoy, and let us know what you think!

Readers' comments 63

Left under the original article, as archived.

  • sirnh1Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:39:16 AM

    * Country defaults to me to "Netherlands", but I'm from the flemish part of Belgium.
    * Browser installed itself in "Dutch", but I want to have it in English. But I can't find a way to change the language?
    * Any chance of getting an option like "don't use off-road while using wifi"?
    * Is support for the "Custom search providers" still coming? Because I really want my custom youtube search provider :sad: ...
    * Opera link doesn't download my favorites, but only opens a webview (not usefull at all)
    * When I'm typing something in a textbox or textarea (like when I'm editing this comment) and click on the 'back' button on my phone (NOT the back button in the browser), opera is reloading the previous page, while it should just leave the textbox and focus back on the current page... (like all other apps do).
    * I don't have a 'back'-button in my browser? (or at least I don't see it, what good is that 'forward' button, when I don't have a 'back' button?
    * Sometimes I find opera loading on a page, that I didn't ask for. I was (trying to go to the myopera forums, but suddenly ended up on
    http://www.opera.com/help/mini/guide )
    * When going to http://my.opera.com/ and getting the mobile version and 'clicking' on the 'Community' button, the community page loads. The submenu 'News, blogs, etc...' shows for like only 2 or 3 seconds.
    * How do I turn off the 'google suggestions'?

    Final edit:
    " it's similar in format as the Chrome UA string, with, for this release, OPR/14.0.1025.52315 appended at the end."
    Won't that mean that opera will show up as 'chrome' in pretty much ALL statistics? (Meaning opera's marketshare will eventually be reported as 0%?)
  • AndreaTuesday, March 5, 2013 9:08:20 AM

    It's unripe but seems good!
  • AuxTuesday, March 5, 2013 9:31:38 AM

    When I launch beta and navigate anywhere pages render as a black screen. Links are clickable, but all pages are just a black screen.

    Then I tried opening opera:config, error page was shown and after that all pages were working OK.
  • Martin KadlecTuesday, March 5, 2013 10:14:54 AM

    Speed Dial emerges, which now also contains all your bookmarks


    Does this mean that once Opera Link is working I'll have all my hundreds of bookmarks on my speed dial?

    Update: I can't get to the main UI, it always crashes on the "Are you ready" page with start button after a while. I sent two crash reports :smile:
  • ouzowtfTuesday, March 5, 2013 10:33:00 AM

    Seems quite good, but some things should be improved.

    - Opera button is too big and uses too much space which should be used by the address bar
    - as the "Discover"-feature seem to be some kind of rss-feed, I would like to set for myself what feeds from what pages I want to see
    - the menu shows me, that there were 97% traffic savings, but offroad-mode was not even once activated
    - like sirnh1 said there should be the option "don't use off-road while using wifi" again
    - on desktop pages there is no word wrap anymore!!!
    - when address bar is highlighted, the protocol should be shown too, so that it could be copied
    - when I'm on the speed dial page and push the back button, Opera should minimize/close itself (regardless if I used the tab for surfing before!)
    - the "new tab" button looks out of place and has the speed dial logo instead of a "+"-sign or anything
    - when pasting an url in the adress bar I can not confirm it. In Opera mobile I could change the url, bacause the keyboard was shown. A "paste and go" would be even cooler.
  • dahulevogyreTuesday, March 5, 2013 10:46:03 AM

    You just switched from the most concise and beautiful UA string to the longest and stupidest one.


    Coming soon to statistics near you :

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/24.0.1312.60 Safari/537.17 OPR/14.0.1025.52315

  • Martin KadlecTuesday, March 5, 2013 10:48:42 AM

    Originally posted by dahulevogyre:

    Coming soon to statistics near you


    Now we only need to add IE10.xx and we have all browsers in it :bigsmile:
  • sirnh1Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:00:39 AM

    Also just noticed: when I load a page and zoom in, all the text doesn't stay on the screen. (Please fix that as it was one of the best features... )

    Originally posted by dahulevogyre:


    Coming soon to statistics near you :

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/24.0.1312.60 Safari/537.17 OPR/14.0.1025.52315



    The android version is even a bit longer as the name of the phone is also in there:

    mozilla/5.0 (linux; android 4.0.4; HTC-Descire S Build/IMM76D) applewebkit/537.22 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/25.0.1364.123 mobile safari/537.22 opr/14.0.1025.52315
  • Erik HauboldTuesday, March 5, 2013 11:43:16 AM

    apart from the things already said: tab swiching is somehow quite difficult. and opening a new tab even more. cant you put the "new tab" button to the side like the options-menu or open a new tab when double-tapping the empty space next to the previews? that would be lots easier when using my phone in landscape mode.
  • m910qTuesday, March 5, 2013 11:52:17 AM

    1.
    I found a page via Discover, and tried the "Save for offline" feature. It worked fine, but the thumbnail only loaded for the big icon, not the small preview-icon on the "Saved pages" folder.
    Screenshot: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1098960/o/beta.png

    The only way to fix it, was to kill the Opera process and open it again.

    2.
    The Download screen is loaded in the tab, so when I close it (by pressing Back), it has to reload the page I was previously on.
    So if I want to save data, I would have to open a new tab, just to go to the Download screen.
  • NimeshTuesday, March 5, 2013 2:25:27 PM

    Originally posted by 4ndrea:

    It's unripe but seems good!


    Yes, but this does not look like beta. It should be set as Preview/Alpha/labs build as lot of finishing would have to be done.
  • ahoj1234Tuesday, March 5, 2013 3:08:02 PM

    first "bug" (not reported - yet?)

    - Using desktop UA string with this beta version and off-road together cause that page are loaded as mobile content => don't respect desktop UA. (changed UA - to desktop - works OK without off-road)

    Originally posted by sirnh1:

    Final edit:
    " it's similar in format as the Chrome UA string, with, for this release, OPR/14.0.1025.52315 appended at the end."
    Won't that mean that opera will show up as 'chrome' in pretty much ALL statistics? (Meaning opera's marketshare will eventually be reported as 0%?)


    http://www.zive.cz/uploadedfiles/586626417.png

    It sounds like you are right :wink:

    Chrome 25 on linux... that's what you get.


    edit:
    How to be fast in switching back? (Opera mini have a simply button) I can't find here any option to switch back at all... I tried "slide to left" or "slide to right" etc... but nothing happened.
  • akjirTuesday, March 5, 2013 3:14:49 PM

    Why i can't use my user defined searchs? Why is Opera Link so hidden?
  • JanghouTuesday, March 5, 2013 3:53:06 PM

    Feels fast and nice.

    Major issue:
    A lot of times the keyboard (Swype)is not shown when editing the addressbar, just an darkgrey overlay over the page. It works OK when opening a new tab.

    Ran Sunspider:
    1.29 as fast: from 1453 ms to 1130ms

    Opera 14 beta: 1130
    Opera 12: 1453
    Firefox: 1368
    Chrome: 1512
    Stock: 1594

    Not bad :smile:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 4.1.2; GT-N7000 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Mobile Safari/537.22 OPR/14.0.1025.52315
  • MossManTuesday, March 5, 2013 4:31:39 PM

    Re-posting from desktop blog:

    First impressions:

    - White. So much white. I hate white UI - restless on the eyes (same opinion about the current desktop UI, as it happens - always preferred the Windows Classic look which matched my calm blue default colours).

    - The bar is too thick... lots of wasted pixel padding and an over-large "O" taking up precious space. At the same time, the address bar is too short to be useful (e.g. at the moment I only see [https://link.opera.com/s] - so different pages in the same domain will never be distinguished).

    - Link doesn't do anything useful yet... just accesses the MyOpera Link page but you have to go through settings(!?). Navigating those bookmarks in the Webkit browser is horrible. Local bookmarks seem to be intentionally absent from the actual browser UI! Weird...

    - The speed dial thumbnail created from BBC news is a white square with grey newspaper text on it - how am I supposed to identify BBC from that?

    - Discover... no thank you.

    - No desktop mode in :yuck: "off road" :yuck:. Also desktop mode now buggers around with the standard layout. I presume the current "Turbo when not on WiFi" will become an option... manually switching will be a pain in the arse.

    - Messy and unintuitive interface, IMO. I know I'll get used to it but I found myself randomly pressing things 'cause I wasn't sure how it would respond and had to figure out certain functions multiple times. Was surprised to find gestures (swiping) didn't do anything (expected left and right to be back and forward, for example).

    So far... nothing impressive, although the zooming seems quite smooth.
  • ouzowtfTuesday, March 5, 2013 4:58:07 PM

    I can not define where to save my download files anymore?!?! :yikes:
    That was the best feature for me the other browsers did not have! :doh:

    Also the native copy, paste, select all options for text are not available. The Opera options for this are hidden when I select too much text :sad: (//edit:it seems to only happen in form fields)
  • ahoj1234Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:20:26 PM

    and... well...

    Opera 14 for Android does not have support for: Custom search providers - seems like a big problem since we have a plenty services witch we want to set.

    access to chrome://flags - Please, really, please don't make this for desktop, android or whatever... rename it to "opera:config" "opera:..." etc... I know that redesign "Opera's under the hood" need some time and has to be updated but... It matters :wink: The little things make big differences...
  • BranoTuesday, March 5, 2013 8:18:08 PM

    It's Better Than I Expected! Yes
    :up:

  • DanielTuesday, March 5, 2013 9:46:48 PM

    No textwrapping and as the article says: no custom searchproviders.
    Please fix that, especially textwrapping is very important for mobile users.
    Plus, on my device (sony xperia sola), scrolling appears to be not as good as in opera mobile 12. No exit-button.

    However, please remember that there are persons whose phones only have 512 MBs of RAM. Opera Mobile 12 does not need that much of RAM like Chrome/Firefox.

    Moreover... Remove Chrome and Apple out of the UserAgent-String. These Companies have no place there...

    What i forgot: no proper text-marking, why are paddings/margins marked aswell? Makes no sense for me.
  • maxefoxTuesday, March 5, 2013 11:46:35 PM

    and 30MB+ is way to much for Android 2.3 phones compare to the 3MB of Opera
    Mobile 12.1
  • Hack My BrainWednesday, March 6, 2013 1:30:38 AM

    Presto-based Opera Mobile is the only major mobile browser that supports User JavaScript (current version of Firefox on Android even doesn't has a proper version of GreaseMonkey to support User JavaScript ).

    And Presto-based Opera Mobile supports URL filter mechanism, which greatly improves loading speed.

    What made Opera distinguished from Chrome on Android are not only apparent features or UI, but also these capable things deep inside, which are important to power users.
    Hope WebKit-based Opera will be at least as powerful as the Presto one.
  • Hack My BrainWednesday, March 6, 2013 1:56:21 AM

    About user operation:

    1) Frequently used "forward" action button or something would be better placed on handy toolbar.
    2) Now switching to another certain tab needs 2 taps on its thumbnail. 1 would be enough.
    3) Chrome-like designed searchbar / addressbar integration is hateful. Sorry for this adjective, and for this so-called fashion, which is more and more popular. It makes page address information visually overrode by searched keywords. Sometimes this behavior of operation is annoying.
  • freenarativeWednesday, March 6, 2013 3:03:30 AM

    Hi there. I was going to install this on my Galaxy tab P-1000 but it says either "your phone is not compatible" if I go via the website or " this item is not available in your country" if i go via the play store. Can I get it released on my phone and in my country please? I feel like I am discriminated against because of what I own and where I live. why does discrimination still happen in this world? :sad:
  • bjhamltnWednesday, March 6, 2013 3:21:32 AM

    Will support for target-densitydpi be supported in your Webkit implementation?

    Even though it is not a part of the HTML5 spec it really enhanced the browsing experience for websites which took advantage of target-densitydpi where supported.
  • Erik HauboldWednesday, March 6, 2013 3:58:31 AM

    now after using it for one day, i can say it's surprisingly stable and working fine. but there are still some rough edges:
    - the new ui looks good, takes less space, ... but some handy gestures would be nice and would help opera differentiate from others
    - the tabswitcher also looks better, but as already mentioned:
    > i now have to tab 2 times to get to my tab
    > i can't use any (more or less) gestures to close tabs (like the android app switcher)
    > i haven't found a comfortable way to open a new tab: either i have to move far across the screen or use a second hand, both takes up lots of time and doesn't feel good. maybe some double-tap to open new tab within the tab-switcher would be nice.
    - no urlfilter.ini, this was quite a killer feature of opera mobile.
    - performance is good, but could be better. the most problematic part is when rotating from portrait to landscape on some sites. opera takes a while to rescale the content.
    - some option to speed up those internal animations (open tab, open tab switcher ...) would be handy. url-bar doesn't react directly after double-tapping a tab.
    - experienced some crashes after activating offroad-mode. also an enable-when-not-on-wifi option would be great, had this one always enabled on opera mobile 12.1
    - the new speed-dial is nice, but please let us configure our own feed's in the discover mode. i ran into this problem: i don't want "computerbild" as a source, as they are just junk in my eyes, but i want to get the engadet us feed, which isn't possible with german region. i could change the region, but then i wouldn't be able to get heise.de or zeit.de. so more customization would be nice (this was always a strength of opera)
    - opera link integration is missing, but this could be because of the beta-state and maybe also because of the folder features not beeing present on desktop at the moment
    - last but not least: how do i debug my pages in opera mobile now? apparently you killed the one-click remote debugging feature.

    this is just a list which came to my mind today, hope there will be some advances in this areas before release so people really wouldn't know whether there is presto or webkit, as the featureset keeps the same and the usability improves with the new gui
  • sirnh1Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:06:04 AM

    Originally posted by Altarius:

    - the new speed-dial is nice, but please let us configure our own feed's in the discover mode. i ran into this problem: i don't want "computerbild" as a source, as they are just junk in my eyes, but i want to get the engadet us feed, which isn't possible with german region. i could change the region, but then i wouldn't be able to get heise.de or zeit.de. so more customization would be nice (this was always a strength of opera)



    I agree with that. I want several sites that are from different countries. And most of the sites in the 'discoveries' page aren't even interesting. I don't want sites like zita.be, goedgevoel.be, msn.com, to show up in there.

    I have only the categories 'technology' and 'entertainment' enabled, but I sometimes still get articles from other categories. What good is the discovery thing if I can't have a say in what sites I want (and don't want) to show up?
  • MossManWednesday, March 6, 2013 10:56:09 AM

    Originally posted by sirnh1:

    I have only the categories 'technology' and 'entertainment' enabled, but I sometimes still get articles from other categories. What good is the discovery thing if I can't have a say in what sites I want (and don't want) to show up?



    Advertising... duh! :wink:

    That's also why I'll never ever use it.
  • ouzowtfWednesday, March 6, 2013 5:10:38 PM

    Performance (e.g. scrolling) is much worse when the browser is installed on the internal memory (default seems to be sdcard), which is kind of weird :bigeyes: :left:
  • Hack My BrainThursday, March 7, 2013 2:02:20 AM

    Tabs on the top are difficult to reach, even unreachable on a super-large-screen phone(aka. phablet), when operated by a single hand. So I think a address bar and tabs placed on the bottom would be more convenient for Opera Mobile.
    An Option for this, which can be presented to new users at the first-time startup, would be nice.
  • ahoj1234Thursday, March 7, 2013 5:33:30 AM

    Originally posted by HackMyBrain:

    Tabs on the top are difficult to reach, even unreachable on a super-large-screen phone(aka. phablet), when operated by a single hand. So I think a address bar and tabs placed on the bottom would be more convenient for Opera Mobile.
    An Option for this, which can be presented to new users at the first-time startup, would be nice.

    +1 I don't write so stupid comments everyday but I have to now :smile: Be able to set these bars to left, right, bottom... and default on top :smile: this could be really nice :smile:
  • Mağruf ÇolakoğluThursday, March 7, 2013 7:55:53 AM

    The first build (I think it is not Beta yet) is nice and has some nice features and some missing/bad features.

    First Impression:
    -There is no text wrapping feature. It is the most importatnt fearure for Opera than other. It should be added.
    -In Turbo mode (Mini style) , it renders the page by Presto instead of Webkit. It should be fixed on Mini servers.(Pls try Facebook)
    -Of course Opera Link should work. (I am sure it will be)
    -I think fullcreen option should be added.
    -Maybe Opera icon should be visible by a setting.
    -Tabs are very nice but a bit hard to reach tab and move them. Maybe tabs move can be by hand on main screen such a mouse gesture from left-to-side or viceversa.

    These are the features I want to add but generally it seems nice and usefull.
  • KleodyrThursday, March 7, 2013 1:56:53 PM

    Since I can't use this as it is only for 2.3 and higher and I only have 2.2 and upgrading either phone or OS is currently not an option.

    I remember there was a Windows emulator for Opera mini or Opera mobile, can you guys release that so that those still on the Android dark ages can at least see it?
  • Jan HaraldssonThursday, March 7, 2013 8:27:42 PM

    Please fix the zoom so all text will fit in the window...
  • PaninaManinaThursday, March 7, 2013 10:00:27 PM

    This is the biggest throwback I've seen in a program in my entire life.
    They took EVERYTHING that made Opera Mobile be good and threw out, all in favor of an engine that is supposed and hypothetically "better."

    Only the addition of private tabs, which should have already come more than one year, it is commendable.
  • RSDThursday, March 7, 2013 11:54:02 PM

    What I don't like of this Opera is the blurry fonts when zooming, common to other webkit browsers.
    I hope Opera devs can find a way to avoid this.
  • Edward MylesSunday, March 10, 2013 12:05:02 AM

    I'm going to try it out :smile:
  • LaurentSunday, March 10, 2013 8:30:35 AM

    I find the new Bets is mising quite a few features of Opera 12. But let's give time some time.

    2 features I really wish I could find in the new versions of Opera on Mobiles/Tablets:
    - Fast forward: love it on desktop, miss it so much on mobile. A swipe to the right should bring me to next page / image in gallery, a swipe to the left would bring me back
    - Recognise RSS feeds on web pages and let me subscribe to the feed. No need to have a built in feed reader (although that was one of Opera Mini best features). Simply pass on the RSS feed link to a choice of installed external readers (Google reader or others)

    Otherwise, fit to screen when zooming, as reported by others doesn't work so well anymore. I have other remarks and grievances but I'll wait and see for the browser to develop.

    Cheers!
  • FIXATORSunday, March 10, 2013 2:26:24 PM

    Will the New Opera UI support for Retina screens in Android devices?
  • acidspoofSunday, March 10, 2013 6:07:52 PM

    So...........when is the desktop version coming ?! anytime soon ? and will opera be completely open source ? :bigeyes:
  • DanielMonday, March 11, 2013 9:10:07 PM

    Originally posted by FIXATOR:

    Will the New Opera UI support for Retina screens in Android devices?


    There is no non-Apple product with a Retina-screen. It's just a name given by Apple.
  • QuHnoTuesday, March 12, 2013 6:08:35 AM

    Originally posted by DD64:

    There is no non-Apple product with a Retina-screen.


    Replace "Retina"-screen with "displays that have a higher resolution than our eyes can resolve at the given viewing distance"-screen and almost all of the higher quality smartphones or tablets qualify for that.
  • f4ncyTuesday, March 12, 2013 8:22:41 PM

    I have 'only' three major points of criticism:

    1.The new UI certainly looks nice, but it is completely inadequate for one handed use. Tab switch and menu on top may work on a 3.5 inch device. On a modern 4.5+ inch phone it’s a just a pain to reach out to the top of the screen every time you want to switch tabs. Just thinking about it makes my thumb hurt…

    2.The lack of true Bookmark function. The SpeedDial is not sufficient for my needs. Just try to imagine it with 100+ bookmarks. One folder level is simply not enough.

    3.The address bar takes way to much space. Especially in widescreen mode it takes a good chunk of the display. There should be an option to toggle its visibility. Just show it when pressing the hardware menu button or something similar. In addition there should be a true fullscreen mode available.

    Those points may be few, but every single one is a major flaw.
  • JimWednesday, March 13, 2013 8:03:49 AM

    Animated PNG is missing. :down:

    And no bookmarklets, which I use often.
  • ИванWednesday, March 13, 2013 9:01:50 PM

    Това е написах в play.google.com - Ами никак не съм доволен ! С моя Xperia Pro нещата са доста зле , забива , тръгна след третия път пускане , вярно е че телефона ми е със слаб хардуер но все пак - ако не е замислян за по - слаби устройства ... Какъв е смисъла ? Радвам се че са върнали старата икона на Опера Мобайл но ... За Java телефони менюто на браузъра е от ляво горе , тук е от дясно но някак е тъпо объркано , няма Опера линк (има го но някак е тъпо не можеш да си синхронизираш началното избиране , в начално избиране стоят някакви сайтове които и да искаш не можеш да ги махнеш или да сложиш твои) ... А когато влязох във Фейсбук той го отрази като Гугъл Хром ... Показателно нали ? Даже страниците се отварят сякаш ползваш хром , но ако са решили че са направили по - добър браузър от хром не са познали ! Хрома е в пъти по - бърз стабилен и върви почти без лаг при по - слабо хардуерни телефони . Ако това е бъдещето на Опера да копират Хром и то безуспешно ... Не не съм доволен , Опера Мобайл си е в пъти по - добър ! Дано не правят грешката и да убият Опера по този начин с Хром под обвивка на Опера ! Освен това Опера Мобайл - общо 21 мб заемана памет Опера бета - 44 мб ?! Ненужно надут , тежък„бавен и е Хром!
  • Kokila1Friday, March 15, 2013 9:16:44 PM

    U uk:yikes: :no: :cry: :sing: :party: :sherlock: :jester:
  • teou6Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:15:53 AM

    Greetings again from Bulgaria. I am (or was?) loyal fan of Opera since ver 4 for the desktop and ver 1 for Opera Mini/Mobile. For the desktop, the things are pretty simple: I'll wait the first Chromium Beta. If it is not a damn good job in the UI department - good bye, Opera. And yes, the now dead Presto browser is far from perfect (how about memory usage and leaks??), but i have put up with many little quirks and still used it, because it was simple and fast, because it was Presto. Not anymore, so the only way to win me back in the desktop department is to make damn good UI, that far exceeds Chrome or Firefox. For example, the stupid font smoothing that stops me now from using Chrome... buy hey, it's something in the layout engine.. so you'll suffer from that too.. so why should i use Opera at all?


    Sorry for the offtopic, but i just don't like when business$$$ kills innovations and customer satisfaction.

    As for the mobile browser, it's utter failiure!! Tested on Android 2.3.7 with arm v6 and on Android 4.0.4 with arm v7 1ghz cpu.
    Interface is bullshit. A lot of Marketing i see - renaming saved files to offline files, proxy to offroad... i see, very important new features. Unification of bookmarks and speeddial... - did you tested this with 200 bokkmarks? I bet not. Opera link - practically killed. RSS - killed, but replaced with news from 10 sites, and obviously i cannot add more. Default zoom - killed. Tab switching - with 3 instead of 2 clicks. The only new thing is the private browsing... which Firefox Mobile already has for about 1-2 years. By the way it also has widgets/add-ons/extentions, which obviously you don't want to port from the desktop version.

    Under the hood: webkit. Laggy zoom. Lacking text reflowing in one column, which is the most important thing for small screens, as stated above in other comments. opera:config is dead, but chrome://chrome-urls is not yet born. More mem and cpu usage. Generally, bullshit again. As if Firefox and Chrome and Android's own browser does not exist and there in no competition at all in mobile browser market, in smartphone dept. at least...
    So obviously i cannot use this anymore on my mobile devices.

    Actually it's not even a proper beta vesion by definition, it's more like alpha. A beta is supposed to be feature complete, so it only gets bugfixes. Here, essential features are missing.
    But that is what hapens when IT company puts in the lead Financial and Marketing Dept. instead of Developers. You just get a big Marketing shit instead of real browser.
  • teou6Sunday, March 17, 2013 1:24:34 PM

    A picture that screams "Epic fail" for itself: 2 open tabs and 150 MB RAM usage. The old Presto version uses 150 mega for about 15 tabs...

    http://postimage.org/image/qzuvbn1zt/

    Now seriously, are we going to see something like real beta of real webbrowser in the upcoming 1-2 months. I mean, i wonder if i should unninstall this junk right now and forget about it, or wait for 1-2 more updates?
  • JimSunday, March 17, 2013 8:49:14 PM

    So when will there be updates about the progress.
  • NimeshMonday, March 18, 2013 5:29:11 PM

    Originally posted by toyotabedzrock:

    So when will there be updates about the progress.


    +1
    I was expecting a blog post after last weeks update
    BTW last week's update was good, removed the nuisance of multiple taps for changing tabs
  • NimeshMonday, March 18, 2013 5:32:32 PM

    Originally posted by teou6:

    A picture that screams "Epic fail" for itself: 2 open tabs and 150 MB RAM usage. The old Presto version uses 150 mega for about 15 tabs...

    http://postimage.org/image/qzuvbn1zt/

    Now seriously, are we going to see something like real beta of real webbrowser in the upcoming 1-2 months. I mean, i wonder if i should unninstall this junk right now and forget about it, or wait for 1-2 more updates?


    I noticed that the RAM usage is slightly more (only the main process) compared to Opera Mobile, but since this is a beta and the shift to Webkit I think this should be okay

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Published inODIN blog
DateMarch 5, 2013
AuthorAndreas Bovens
Tagswebkit, browsers, Opera, mobile, android
OriginalInternet Archive