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Wahoo returns

November 15, 2011 · by Ruarí Ødegaard

We promised you more Opera Next 12.00 builds after the 11.60 Beta, so now is about the right time fulfil that promise. These are the Opera 12.00 equivalents of the 11.60-1150 builds we gave you last Friday. They contain all of the fixes listed in the previous 11.60 change logs, plus the all new mail design, and of course hardware acceleration and theme support. wink

Remember, when commenting on bugs or issues that it helps greatly if you can tell us your Operating System (including version), graphics card (make/model), and what video drivers you are using (including version). If you are unsure about the latter part opera:gpu can assist you. A quick comparison with the last 11.60 build will also help you to distinguish if this is a hardware acceleration issue or a more general problem.

P.S. It is fine to give us feedback on the most recent 11.60 builds below as well, so long as you mention that you are using 11.60 (or Tunny) in your comment.

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

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Changelog

Desktop
  • All of the fixes and improvements from the 11.60 builds
  • Stability improvements for hardware acceleration

Readers' comments

Comments left by My Opera members under the original post: the first 50, as archived.

  • Rianav AntaresKerenSkyyTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:33:02 PM

    Sweet, many thanks! Testing now! glad to see wahoo back!up
  • Abhilash L LllabhilashTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:36:37 PM

    Waaaaahoo!! 2nd!!
  • MichałEmdekTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:37:12 PM

    UI is still drawn with offset when HWA is enabled under KDE with menu bar visible...
  • CyroTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:38:20 PM

    12.00 themes don´t work in this build. Titlebar is missing.
    I have to use a regular skin.
  • ComwanTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:39:44 PM

    Yeaaaah! smile
  • Ruarí ØdegaardruarioTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:43:44 PM

    Originally posted by Cyro:

    12.00 themes don´t work in this build. Titlebar is missing.I have to use a regular skin.

    OS?? wink
  • Obese MauriceObeseMauriceTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:45:30 PM

    Are there any HWA fixes?
  • Patrick O'Reillypaddy2kTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:46:12 PM

    Yahoo for Wahoo!
    Are themes working as expected on *nix?
  • sabisanTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:49:53 PM

    Yay testing cheers.
    Finally knockout wink.
  • Obese MauriceObeseMauriceTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:51:08 PM

    Originally posted by Cyro:

    12.00 themes don´t work in this build. Titlebar is missing.I have to use a regular skin.



    Can't confirm that. Win7 x64.
  • Ruarí ØdegaardruarioTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:51:46 PM

    Originally posted by paddy2k:

    Are themes working as expected on *nix?


    They didn't in the previous 12.00 snapshot and I didn't mention a fix in this changelog, so no! wink
  • cowwTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:57:50 PM

  • Alexanders-a-s-hTuesday, November 15, 2011 12:58:12 PM

    Offtopic: I dream of automatic tab stacking
  • Alessio ReinermatejakezmanTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:00:10 PM

    BUG from 11.6 now here.
    go to the cpanel(if you have one of course), then to the filemanager, edit any longer text file(example php files). Try to search for something, then when it highlights keyword, click mouse on page, and it scrolls back to the top of the page.
    Server linux, apache version 2.2.21, cpanel 11.30.4.
  • Ruarí ØdegaardruarioTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:01:20 PM

    Originally posted by ObeseMaurice:

    Are there any HWA fixes?

    yes as stated in the changelog.
  • Erik HauboldAltariusTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:02:21 PM

    well...something with the labels doesnt fit wink

    http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopdf2309

    as you can see, the news from june are labeled as may and 2011 should be saturday (3 days before), last week is correct and the empty one should be 2 weeks before.
  • minhoTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:03:05 PM

    Opera crashes all the time when HWA is ON.
    Video card: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
    OS: Fedora 16 x32

    opera:gpu says...
    Vega backend Software
    OpenGL
    Blocklist version 1
    Blocklist status for 2D Supported
    Blocklist status for 3D Supported
    GL_VENDOR Tungsten Graphics, Inc
    GL_RENDERER Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
    GL_VERSION 1.4 Mesa 7.11
  • christopoTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:03:53 PM

  • cssmTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:07:29 PM

    Same problems as before. Massive lag on youtube page youtube.com/charts, makes it unusable.. And after 1 minute opera has crashed. No visible progress..
    Latest build (1155), standalone installation, updated Win7x64, video Nvidia GTX260, latest video drivers 285.79 (on whql all the same), all drivers up to date.
  • Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99proTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:10:46 PM

    Thanks for the snapshot - but hope you get DSK-347078 done before Opera 11.60 final.
  • inDigazzZAnuarShTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:12:22 PM

    HWA is On
    Google Reader - empty

    Twitter Timeline



    HWA is On
    Google Reader - Ok

    Twitter Timeline


    GL_RENDERER
    ATI Radeon HD 4250
    GL_VERSION
    3.3.11079 Compatibility Profile Context
    GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION
    3.30
    Производитель
    0x1002
    ID устройства
    0x9715
    Версия драйвера
    8.892.0.0
  • alchemist11jonnyquesty2kTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:14:38 PM

    If it says blocked, does that mean HWA is disabled? Disregard that. Sadly, I just read my system is intentionally blocked and may not be supported any more.
  • РоманRomelyusTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:17:13 PM

    Ctrl+T → Ctrl+Space (Home) = 2 tabs (speeddial & homepage)
    Ctrl+T → Alt+Home (Home) = 1 tab (homepage only) ← It's correct

    PS: "Use current tab" is enabled.

    And why aliasing is broken on CSS3 transformations & border-radius when hardware acceleration is enabled?

    Win7 x64

    Подсистема Vega
    OpenGL
    OpenGL
    Версия списка совместимости
    1
    Статус совместимости для 2D
    Поддерживается
    Статус совместимости для 3D
    Поддерживается
    GL_VENDOR
    ATI Technologies Inc.
    GL_RENDERER
    AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6470M
    GL_VERSION
    4.1.10527 Compatibility Profile Context
    …
    GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION
    4.10
    Производитель
    0x1002
    ID устройства
    0x6760
    Версия драйвера
    8.823.0.0
  • ClashCityRockerclashcityrockerTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:17:24 PM

    Hmm, back to calling them Skins again (rather than Themes in the last 12 snaphot)

    Intentional?
  • CyroTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:20:29 PM

    Win7 x64
    I forgot to mention I'm using tab thumbnails on the right.

    And minimize, restore, close buttons are over trash can button. This doesn't happen with a native or standard skin but it happens with the new themes:

  • kill100Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:20:47 PM

    Write any text in google Translate in any language and translate.
    Page settings set "Fit to width".
    Move your mouse over translated text / word.
    And we admire a bug.



    Вбиваем любой текст в google Translate на любом языке и переводим .
    В настройках страницы ставим "Подогнать по ширине".
    Наводим мышку на переведенный текст/слово.
    И любуемся прекраснейшим багом.

    12.00 lasts build.
    в нескольких последних 12,00.

    PS: Sorry for bad English. My native language is Russian. However, "google translate" translation from Russian into English is worse than I did.

    ЗЫ: Извините за убогий английский. Мой родной язык русский . Однако translate google переводит с русского на английский хуже чем я сам парадокс однако .
  • Obese MauriceObeseMauriceTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:27:46 PM

    Originally posted by ruario:

    yes as stated in the changelog.



    Thanks. I'm obviously blind. doh
  • blackcoderTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:27:58 PM

    Looks like the black boxes as described here are fixed:
    http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/36742372?startidx=100#comment72973452

    Nice work. yes
  • alchemist11jonnyquesty2kTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:28:22 PM

    Originally posted by Cyro:

    Win7 x64
    I forgot to mention I'm using tab thumbnails on the right.

    And minimize, restore, close buttons are over trash can button. This doesn't happen with a native or standard skin but it happens with the new themes:


    I confirm. Same OS. This applies also when using themes. The bin can icon overlaps the X button. And when using any of the themes, you cannot drag and move Opera at all.
  • BakLANTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:29:29 PM

    After changing skin to 12.0, opera window shown whithout 3 buttons in upper right corner. Than, if we close opera and start it again with new 12.0 skin, the 3 buttons now exists but opera window now covers the windows taskbar if it situated up on the screen. Then if we do minimize and then maximize opera windows, windows taskbar now showing but not sharp with opera window:



  • NickOnSyncTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:30:24 PM

    Should we wait for new 11 builds or only 12?
  • GTSSGela2010Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:31:05 PM

    if enabled Hardware acceleration - drop-down list of search engines, thumbnails of open pages, extensions settings flickers

    Windows XP SP3
    GeForce 8400 GS
  • minhoTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:31:20 PM

    Originally posted by kill100:

    Write any text in google Translate in any language and translate.Page settings set "Fit to width". Move your mouse over translated text / word. And we admire a bug.


    Same here.
    Fedora 16 x32
  • nimu_channimuchanTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:31:54 PM

    Wowww...Thank you!! up
  • José BatistawyldkatTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:37:13 PM

    Past 11.60 Changelogs:

    http://pastebin.com/EDNyTBiX
  • eigenstrTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:41:00 PM

    The last couple builds have been slow, so I've been sticking with 1090. I tried this one, and it's slow, and I imagine this is why:

    Vega backend: Software
    OpenGL Blocklist version 1
    Blocklist status for 2D: Blocked driver version
    Reason for 2D status: No support for old legacy drivers
    Blocklist status for 3D: Blocked driver version
    GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
    GL_RENDERER: GeForce 6200/AGP/SSE2
    GL_VERSION: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.43.20
  • Charles SchlossChas4Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:43:20 PM

    The IE user agent string is wrong

    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/5.0; en)



    Can't be used for IE 9 because IE 9 can't be used on Windows XP
  • QuHnoTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:52:22 PM

    This build seems to like feeds better than the last 11.60 build (several 11.60 crashlogs sent) - at least it doesn't crash if I close it directly after reading up

    edit: but after closing the last tab if it contains a feed and then closing Opera... awww
  • JeherrinTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:52:45 PM

    Still not detecting maximised size properly; the first time Wahoo's opened it covers the taskbar at the bottom, and requires hitting F11 to fullscreen it and back again before it sits at the right size.

    Win7, 32bit, GeForce 8200M G (driver v8.17.12.8026), HWA on.
  • pheudoTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:54:08 PM

    Speedial extensions doesn't work under proxy server.
  • extttttttttttTuesday, November 15, 2011 1:58:43 PM

    Everything blurred with HW on. With HW off everything works fine.

    Vega backend
    Software
    OpenGL
    Blocklist version
    1
    Blocklist status for 2D
    Supported
    Blocklist status for 3D
    Supported
    GL_VENDOR
    NVIDIA Corporation
    GL_RENDERER
    GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i/PCI/SSE2
    GL_VERSION
    2.1.2

    EDIT:

    Windows 8 Developer Preview x64
  • Satan D. LucifersupertrolTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:09:49 PM

    Does opera recommends an update for the driver version?

    http://i.imgur.com/CObZc.jpg

    im still on 275.33 nvidia drivers

    heres a link to test

    http://operasoftware.github.com/Odin/demo.html (open it for awhile to see the image..on 1st load only music you can hear

    heres my opera:gpu summary

    Vega backend
    OpenGL

    Blocklist version
    1
    Blocklist status for 2D
    Supported
    Blocklist status for 3D
    Supported
    GL_VENDOR
    NVIDIA Corporation
    GL_RENDERER
    GeForce 9400 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
    GL_VERSION
    3.3.0

    GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION
    3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
    Vendor ID
    0x10de
    Device ID
    0x0641
    Driver version
    8.17.12.7533


    EDIT:

    OS: Windows 7 SP1
    GPU: Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT
    Driver VErsions: 275.33
  • JarasmenTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:12:32 PM

    Gmail still causing excessive CPU load with HWA on. General performance isn't so good either. That's the biggest gripe I have with Wahoo builds.

    Win7, 64 bit, GeForce GTS 250, driver version 8.17.12.8562 (285.62)
  • Livio RibeirolivioribeiroTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:16:58 PM

    In mail client, the sort button and the config (wrench) button just flicker the options.

    Windows 7 32bits, HWA enabled, AMD series 6300
  • United States of EuropeunitedstatesofeuropeTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:16:59 PM

    System: WinXP, HD3870, Catalyst 11.9;

    - Fullscreen mode looks kinda awful - a title bar appears on the top.

    - Scrolling on some sites with much content is still laggy, less than on previous snap-shot, but still unpleasantly.

    + Sometimes feels almost as fast as Google Chrome, yet still often tends to move elements of the website after it is displayed, which makes it slower again - because site is not ready to use until everything is settled and stands still.

  • ClashCityRockerclashcityrockerTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:22:38 PM

    Originally posted by pheudo:

    Speedial extensions doesn't work under proxy server.



    Working here.

    I use

    https://addons.opera.com/en/addons/extensions/details/gismeteo-weather-forecast-in-speed-dial/1.0.2-2/?display=en
  • minhoTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:23:42 PM

    I cant resize date column in feed reader.
    win 7 x64

    Why is not possible change column position draging it? Bug?
  • RijkTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:24:44 PM

    Originally posted by clashcityrocker:

    Hmm, back to calling them Skins again (rather than Themes in the last 12 snaphot)Intentional?

    The strings database is not branched between 11.60 and 12.00, as not to cause too much headaches for the localization team smile So this will likely stay this way until we have a 11.60 release.

    Originally posted by Chas4:

    The IE user agent string is wrong

    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/5.0; en)



    Can't be used for IE 9 because IE 9 can't be used on Windows XP
    I doubt that this matters one way or another (which shows the sillyness of these UA strings...)
  • MossManTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:26:16 PM

    I was just reminded of (yet) another issue in the new mail UI (so this also applies to 11.60):

    When I click "fit to width", it also removes all empty lines! So a nicely-formatted mail with breathing-space between sections of text becomes one big ugly clump of characters...
  • tomasbTuesday, November 15, 2011 2:26:48 PM

    FYI (regression):

    Ipv6 addresses doesn't work due to incorrect address parsing
    ex.: https://[::1]/

    """
    The URL https://[::1]/ contains characters that are not valid in the location they are found.
    """

    EDIT:
    Also alt is incorrectly escaped

About this article

Published inDesktop Team blog
DateNovember 15, 2011
AuthorRuarí Ødegaard
Tagswahoo, 12.00
OriginalInternet Archive